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The story of Ayman Abu Soobuch (Sobuh) is fascinating. It demonstrates how Palestinians suffer not only from oppression due to Israeli occupation, but also from the terror of the armed resistance against fellow Palestinians.

Sure you can dismiss this video as a propaganda piece featuring a traitor to the Palestinian cause. However I find this a fascinating peek into a reality, that’s rarely seen.

The real lives of people are more complex than the black and white narratives often presented .

He was born in Gaza and taught to hate. Today, he lives in Israel as a Jew. This is his unbelievable story. Get his inspirational true-story book on Amazon: https://amzn.to/4rirO2B In this exclusive interview, we hear directly from a man whose life story defies belief. Born and raised in Gaza, he was indoctrinated from a young age to hate Jews and destroy Israel. His path was set: join the terror infrastructure and fight. Instead, he chose a different path. Speaking from the shadows he reveals: The reality of growing up in a Hamas family in Gaza. The turning point that made him question everything he was taught. His dangerous escape to Israel. His spiritual journey from Islam to converting to Judaism. This is a raw, unfiltered look at the human side of the conflict and the possibility of change even in the darkest of places.

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[–] zeezee@slrpnk.net 6 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Sure you can dismiss this video as a propaganda piece featuring a traitor to the Palestinian cause. However I find this a fascinating peek into a reality, that’s rarely seen.

This is an actual propaganda piece by an explicitly zionist organization made up from current and former IDF personnel.

https://idsf.org.il/en/about-us/

OUR MISSION We are a Zionist, security-based movement, whose aim is to position Israel's security as the top national priority, in a manner which ensures the sovereignty of the Jewish people in their homeland for generations to come.

Our understanding of Israel's security inherently includes actively countering antisemitism and anti-Israel propaganda, recognizing these as direct threats to the legitimacy and security of the State of Israel.

To achieve this mission, we have established a diverse movement led by women and men, senior officers from all branches of the defense forces, researchers, academics, as well as civilians from throughout Israeli society. We are focused on spreading the message that Israel’s security, including the fight against antisemitism and anti-Israel bias in all their forms, must be a determining factor in State policy.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 4 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

The OP,is a zionists always giving excuses to Israel, remove contexts to make look like palestinians do not want peace and even straight up lying

[–] Limerance@piefed.social -3 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (2 children)

Here’s a recent poll of what Palestinians want. Support for continued armed struggle on one side and negotiations and peaceful resistance is about split. Support for the most realistic option for peace in the form of two states in at 44% currently.

I personally know Palestinians, who work towards peaceful coexistence in two or one state. They hate Hamas with a passion. Their stories about the lack of free press and free speech in Palestinian society under Hamas and the PA are disturbing. They have to be very careful to not suffer serious consequences.

I’m not saying Palestinians don’t want peace. Their political leadership has made lots decisions, that turned out badly for Palestinians. Israeli politicians have made a ton of terrible decisions as well, especially Natanyahu.

Israel does a lot of things, I don’t approve of. The settlement and occupation of the West Bank and Gaza has to end. Palestinians deserve a better life.

There are structural reasons on both sides that enable the continuation and worsening of the conflict. These feed each other in a spiral. Israel is more powerful and has more responsibility to change. However Palestinians have agency as well and something needs to change as well.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Arafat recognized Israel and stopped armed resistance, Israel continued the occupation and ethenic cleansing. Israel is the only reason why Palestinians are not free. No amount of lies and removing context with change the fact. None of your bullshit will make people think you do not support genocide. You are just doing victim blaming

[–] Limerance@piefed.social 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Ethnic cleansing was happening between Oslo and the second intifada?

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago

demolishing palestinians houses and expulsing them is ethenic cleansing and it happened during the oslo accords and the second intifada where more palestinians was murdered than israelis and that arafat accepted which you lied about the other time

[–] Limerance@piefed.social -3 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Propaganda doesn’t mean it’s not true. It only means it’s one sided.

This is a Palestinian talking about his life story, providing a special perspective.

I read stuff from electronic intifada as well, even though it’s one sided.

[–] zeezee@slrpnk.net 3 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Propaganda isn't just about true vs. false - it's about framing. And the pattern across your posts is consistent: Israel has "legitimate security interests," yet Palestinians "fucked up" and are an "uppity group" that by "being uncompromising has cost them dearly" - as if the occupied are responsible for calibrating how much dispossession to accept. Your whole argument boils down to - they were invaded by Zionists and they lost so they should just stop fighting and accept whatever scraps Israel gives them

You'll hide behind "Palestinians deserve a better life" but that's how atrocity apologia always works: you don't have to deny it, you just have to make it sound reasonable.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago

Tis guy is loving in the state comitting a genocide and that want to wipe up palestinians