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so I found my campus communist bookclub (lemmy.ml)

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They are 90% ultras 😔

Who is Bordiga and what is his dialogue with Stalin?

They called hakim a socdem???(like I agree he has some issues but this feels a bit far)

They consider China imperialist and said the USSR never achieved socialism and was capitalist actually. I thought these people only existed online.

They also said AES is a Brezhnevite revisionism and only 2 maybe 3 places have ever achieved socialism but didn't say which ones.

I've only read Lenin, Marx, Mao, and Engels so maybe I'm just out of my depth and not understanding? Idk shit is wack what are y'alls thoughts?

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[–] Wisconcom@hexbear.net 14 points 1 day ago

They consider China imperialist and said the USSR never achieved socialism and was capitalist actually. I thought these people only existed online.

What definition of "imperialism" are they using? Did they use the term "social-imperialist" at all? These people exist in real life, albeit confined to very comfy armchairs in isolated book clubs, detached from the masses.

They also said AES is a Brezhnevite revisionism and only 2 maybe 3 places have ever achieved socialism but didn't say which ones.

To be fair, it did originate in Brezhnev's Soviet Union, but regarding socialism as ever happening at all is strange for "left" communists. Most of them argue that socialism never existed in my experience.

Looks like you have Bordigists who can't even be consistent with their own ideology. I am sorry to hear that.