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This question is coming from another post where I was asking what the intelligensia and petit bourgeoisie difference is (https://lemmygrad.ml/post/10748355)

This is a comment I left when discussing: "This one is really difficult for me to grasp, it’s probably my ignorance and lack of knowledge, but why would someone who is a small business owner that doesn’t employ any other worker be bourgeois? Are freelancers and struggling artists who are trying to get their foot in the door of an industry also in that class? I hope I don’t come off as aggressive (I just read back what I wrote and it sounds a bit like that, but I swear it isn’t :D)"

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[–] znsh@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 3 days ago (4 children)

The frame of reference is my partner who is a photographer and gets projects like weddings, concerts, products etc. Same with her mom who is a puppet maker and painter, also gets contracted for different projects. So they are essentially demoted to a wage worker if I understand correctly, since they still sell their labour.

[–] GrainEater@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 3 days ago

They don't sell their labour [power], they sell the product of their labour; as a result, assuming they don't employ anyone (or use contract labour), they are artisans, a fairly small but distinct class that shares traits with both the proletariat and the petite bourgeoisie.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 days ago

Actually, wouldn't this make them an artisan? Not proletarian because they own the tools they use to do their work, but not bourgeois because they also don't exploit any workers other than themselves.

[–] happybaby@hexbear.net 8 points 3 days ago

But they have control over where and when their labor power is utilized, which is what makes their situation different.

This is a good question, thanks for asking it. It makes me realize there is more of a spectrum between lumpenproletariat and monopoly capitalist, although there are actors that are very clearly in one category, there are areas where it blends. And of course it's always in flux.

[–] zedcell@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

They sell the output of their labour, not the right to use their labour for a day/week/month at the going rate for labour power (the average cost to reproduce a worker plus maybe some bonus pay for scarcer labour skills or a bribe for being a labour overseer).

In the one case, the service of photography is being sold at the going rate for photography and no surplus value is extracted from the labour. In the other case labour power itself is purchased, and the capitalist is now responsible for extracting as much useful input as possible from the labourer during the time they've purchased the labour. In that way they can profit from surplus value produced in excess of the cost they paid for the labour power.