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Idk about the Greens, but Biden had 6 Million more votes in 2020 than Harris did in 2024. That's a lot of abstainers.
Okay, take another step: how do you get those voters to have voted in 2024?
We're going to run two experiments, @FiniteBanjo@feddit.online , which will both start with the following premise:
It's August 2024, the night before the convention, and you are Kamala Harris's campaign manager. You are just coming off the big bump in polling you got from naming Tim Walz your vp. So far, your polling has been meteoric. You managed to got from the low forties high thirties to high forties in weeks.
You've got 1.5 billion dollars to spend, and a week of captured media going into the convention. You have three months.
The experiment (0, 1) is conducted by you answering the following questions follows:
0 You are not allowed to change the candidates policy positions. Explain how you would use 1.5 billion dollars and 3 months to win an election.
1 You are allowed to change the candidates policy positions. Explain how you would use 1.5 billion dollars and 3 months to win an election.
If you actually answer those in good faith, you figure out how to get those 6 million voters back, and perhaps also understand how to have not lost them in the first place.
Maybe we could fight back against the constant feed of misinformation run by Republicans, Billionaires, and Hostile Foreign Dictatorships? Yeah, I think thats how we get those votes back. We need DNC boots on the ground, door to door deep canvasing. Volunteering for the DNC is the most successful strategy to get the GOP out of power. It's how we tax the rich, pass singlepayer, remove PAC money, punish bribery, and hold criminals at the highest level of government accountable.
You could at least pretend to try and answer the question in good faith.
You've got 1.5 billion dollars to spend: What do you do differently in the Harris campaign, if not change her policies, that causes her to win?
And if you can't propose a method to using the 1.5 billion dollar warchest to win without changing her policies then you have to concede that we were right.
Musk bought twitter for $44 Bn and idk how much TikTok costs the Chinese but it made $33 Bn in Revenue, the arbitrary $1.5Bn seems pretty inconsequential.
Personally I'd have done more grassroots organization, more paid and volunteer position openings, and remove that guy from the campaign team who said there wouldn't be an unrealized gains tax: that guy sucks. Definitely don't bring the Chenneys on stage.
Do you understand what a grass-roots organization is? By definition, you can't helicopter in and create a grassroots organization. Are you going to stand by these statements here, in good faith, and argue that if Harris did these things, she would have won the election?
Because this looks like some thin ass bullshit. Tittering around the edges. I think you need to face reality.
Grass Roots means organizing from the bottom up. Bernie Sanders is often cited as a perfect example of Grass Roots, his campaigns are run by his team and the cooperation of many small groups and individuals, and likewise his funding comes from mostly small amount individual donations.
I'm not sure if she would have won if she had done those things, as I mentioned earlier the cards were stacked against her, the billionaires and foreign powers bought this election.
So you wanted a 1.5 billion dollar campaign to be something it wasn't? If you think a grass-roots campaign was what it was going to take to stop fascism, then you HAVE TO recognize that supporting Biden and Harris was a mistake.
If not you need to take another swing at bat for what the campaign, a real campaign, the one that happened in the real world, could have done differently OTHER than changing its policies, to win the election.
Otherwise you must concede that it was the failure of the campaign to change its policies which lost the election.
You've got 1.5 billion dollars to work with. SURELY you can come up with something.
You didn't specify where the money came from.
Jfc you really are putting some effort into spinning your wheels on this one. I'll be using this as an example of you not engaging in good faith in the future.
Good thing the mods on lemmy world actually do something about those type of users. Oh wait no that's only if not parroting the dnc lines
I could take any one of your comments to use as an example of that, so fair game.
No you cant. Don't lie. I've called you out on this before and you can never put up. In fact, do it now. Go find a bad faith effort on my part. Comment history is right there, fascist.