The Last Jedi had some really powerful messages and was incredibly well made, but sadly it hurt some people's feelings a bit so it's seen as a bad movie despite commercial success and critical acclaim. And sadly that vocal minority made them backtrack a lot of the choices from that movie in episode 9, so yes, as a trilogy it became completely incoherent.

[–] ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zip 1 points 26 minutes ago

It's a weird movie, the story around Rey, Luke, Kylo, and Snoke was excellent, but the story around Finn, Rose, and the general was awful writing and usually bland acting. There's a really good movie in there, maybe one of the best Star Wars, if you cut out half of it.

[–] Sidyctism2@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

It is kind of a bad movie though. Yeah, the switch away from some chosen one (s family) was cool, but the actual story of the movie is the most boring chase in the universe coupled with dicking around in some casino.

[–] jonsnothere@beehaw.org 1 points 51 minutes ago

It's about the same amount of plot advancement (maybe slightly more) than Empire Strikes Back, though.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

All of Star Wars imho, they have little to no story, especially the first three made, they added space decision to an average western, dulled down the story & characters/ships to make the merch available at the same time as the movie (which was like the main goal with the first movie).

They are a cool space opera, but they all have short/"small" stories bcs that is probably what focus groups predicted will be the most successful for the business.