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Important progress has been made regarding bringing MLS end-to-end encryption to the ActivityPub protocol, with developers already building implementations and providing feedback to a future version of the protocol spec.

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[–] confuser@lemmy.zip 17 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

Matrix is decentralized but its not federating in a way like activity pub is doing

[–] Steve@communick.news 30 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (2 children)

ActivityPub isn't the only way to federate.
Matrix is federating the same way email does. Anyone can spin up their own server. And if they want anyone can spin up their own software. That's what federation is. Different servers agreeing on how to communicate with each other.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 10 points 19 hours ago

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[–] confuser@lemmy.zip 1 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

No that's decentralization, federating is when you can share the info natively outside the platform.

[–] Steve@communick.news 6 points 18 hours ago

share the info natively outside the platform.

I'm not even sure that makes sense.
Federating is based on protocols not platforms. And what does it mean to share natively if not using the protocol?

[–] ageedizzle@piefed.ca 1 points 19 hours ago

That’s a distinction that only matters to nerds.

Luckily most of us on here are nerds so it’s all good.

[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 14 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

How so? It's certainly very similar.

The matrix protocol enables federation between different instances running different homeservers between users using different clients.

[–] confuser@lemmy.zip -5 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

But all those clients are matrix, not say some discord, some fluxer, some stoat, etc.

[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com 13 points 19 hours ago

All activitypub platforms are activity pub. Also, matrix is a protocol, not a client. There's tons of clients for matrix (element/element x being the main one).

[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 6 points 18 hours ago

Yes?

"Matrix" is the protocol.

The equivalent is ActivityPub, not discord, fluxer or stoat.

[–] Anafabula@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

The Fediverse isn't federated.

All those clients are ActivityPub, not say some Twitter, some Facebook, some Bluesky, etc.

How is that different?

[–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world 10 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

What do you mean?

And what benefit justifies yet another standard?

[–] VaalaVasaVarde@sopuli.xyz 9 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

In this day and age we need as many open source e2e encrypted alternatives as possible.

[–] littleomid@feddit.org 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Matrix is a protocol, not an “App”. We would all benefit if everyone stopped doing their own thing, and started to push stuff for Matrix.

[–] VaalaVasaVarde@sopuli.xyz 3 points 12 hours ago

Huh? ActivityPub is also a protocol, now with this feature, why does that extra feature stop people from using Matrix?

Matrix has a list of specs, and ActivityPub has a different list, there may be some overlap but what's the problem here?

[–] confuser@lemmy.zip -1 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Matrix does not connect natively to discord as an example, every user of a matrix protocol is still within matrix

[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com 6 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Activitypub doesn't connect natively to my toaster.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 6 points 18 hours ago

Sounds like you need to upgrade your toaster, noob.

[–] littleomid@feddit.org 1 points 14 hours ago

So? Does anything connect to discord, legally and natively?