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Interesting article from a generalist magazine. According to it:

  • Best Preinstalled Phone: Fairphone 6 With /e/OS
  • Best for Pixel Phones: GrapheneOS
  • Best for Non-Pixel Phones: /e/OS
  • For the DIY Tinkerer: LineageOS
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[–] glitching@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I alternate between mobian and postmarketOS every coupla months, to be up to date on the state of it. I have a fast device, lotsa RAM, lotsa fast storage, switch regularly between various UIs (phosh, plasma mobile, etc)

"up to speed" is such a huge, immense, and moving target that I can't fathom the funds and dev efforts needed to get there. e.g. the plasma team has their hands full with bringing desktop plasma up to speed - 6.6 was a gargantuan effort; when you throw the mobile UI in the mix, it makes the goal exponentially farther away.

when you consider that Linux-on-Phones (just had a mental flash of Russ Hanneman saying "Radio-on-Internet") isn't one thing, there's a bunch of dev efforts, some on bare-metal, some halium based and the various UIs (gnome, phosh, plasma mobile, sxmo, etc) that all pull in different directions, solving the same thing independently, wasting time and dev efforts.

so this thing becoming an alternative to an OS that was worked on for close to two decades by the richest people on the planet - that simply isn't on the horizon, becoming an android alternative is pretty far, far away.

now, if you think of this as your linux laptop with a touch interface in your pocket, you're closer to what this thing is and can do.

[–] linule@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It doesn’t feel so far fetched to me. People are always complaining about the same 3 technical things: VolTE, call quality and security model. Surely that’s doable? And app support, but that’s the usual networks effects problem that’s also manageable.

As to the different Linux variants, the idea probably would be to develop a canonical model with interoperability standards somehow.

Android uses the Linux kernel, maybe some parts can be migrated or used for guidance, at least. Probably not necessary.

I‘d not be intimidated by the years and money that has been poured into iOS and Android. The years are incidental, this is just the time that the companies have existed and correlates weakly with the time you‘d need to develop from scratch nowadays. They have thrown away a lot of code and years of work in the process and are likely also carrying a lot of legacy code which they‘d happily rewrite if they could start over. AI is also accelerating development. There’s also something cultural there, US tends to fund lavishly, maybe we figure out how to develop more efficiently and perhaps decentralizedly, prioritizing standards and interoperability over monopolies.

[–] glitching@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm telling you how things are, you're listing things you wished to be true. and that list will get accomplished by deus-ex-machinas, what's the big deal... install it on a loose device you got and try using it for a day or two.

you don't see what the big deal is? you're in a UX that was tweaked and polished for decades, and you do it almost subconsciously, whilst walking, dodging pedestrians, doing other shit, etc. this thing is in its infancy and pretty far from usable by even tech people for everyday shit, let alone normies.

the apps aren't handling the vertical UI gracefully or at all. like, plasma's settings UI doesn't collapse the categories so you can't interact with it. Gnome's ~~toggle switches~~ dropdowns only recently started reacting to touch. OSKs are now at least somewhat usable but still nothing compared to android keyboards. none of the navigation gestures you got muscle memory for work here. that's just the system's UI, before you even attempt to run apps that don't know that 300% zoomed-in, vertical UI is a thing.

the stuff you mention are so far off on the things-to-fix list, might as well not be on it.

this is a glorious platform and I love using it; but people expecting this to be a replacement for android is bordering on delusion, no such thing exists nor is it really in the works.

[–] linule@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

„UX that was tweaked and polished for decades“, cool, now we know the optimal UX and can develop the first version with it. No need to spend 2 decades again investigating, tweaking, refining, optimizing for hardware that doesn’t exist anymore, and adapting to marketing cycles to get here.

The „is“ situation is not simply extrapolatable, because now you‘ve an increased interest in technological independence. These projects have been limited to a very fringe community of tech enthusiasts and funders, which explains their state.

And the issues on a technical level shouldn’t be too major, Linux is a well proven platform, that works perfectly well on desktop, and embedded devices, and the mobile projects already exist and kind of work. With enough funding and incentive, you could probably fix all the major problems in a year or so.