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cross-posted from: https://hexbear.net/post/7760707

"Death to Germany because they say their reason for existing is to support 'Israel'^[Not a joke, they call this "Staatsräson".]? That's genocidal against Germans."

Sorry, but I don't care about your colonizer fragility.

amerikkka germany-cool eu-cool isntrael qin-shi-huangdi-fireball

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[–] LeninWeave@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)

There is no such thing as anti-white racism.

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

White people can be racist against white skin people cause the concept of race is social construct designed by oppressors to colonize and oppress anyone.

Ireland was colonized by the British since the early 12th century. Irish people have faced inherent power systems that was only in favor of the British.

“Whiteness emerged in the colonial period,” she notes. “Before that there were Normans and Saxons and Irish, and various assorted people, but there weren’t whites as such.”

In what way does whiteness influence our thinking? “Everywhere European colonialism happened – and it happened in Ireland too – there were certain ideas, concepts and categories that got sent out to the world. There was a ranking of peoples, and part of the idea of colonialism was that European peoples were the vanguard of the human race: scientifically, technologically, aesthetically, morally, philosophically, politically.

“Whiteness is a historical formation. You can talk about the Irish experience in very particular terms because they were coming in to the labour market at the lowest of the low. They weren’t included in the club of whiteness in the beginning, but have had a particular experience in colonial migration and the labour market because they were at least seen as European, and so were able to make the shift that I think is harder for African-Americans today or people from Latin America or Asia.”

https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/unthinkable-are-irish-people-becoming-less-black-1.2453237

Or how Eastern Europeans faced violence during Brexit.

One of the most concerning aspects of the study was the reports from the young people on the increasing levels of racism and xenophobia in their neighbourhoods since the Brexit Referendum. This had changed the way they felt about their neighbourhoods and the UK- and was a trigger point for some to think about moving, perhaps to another country. Half of the young people in the study said they have seen more racism and discrimination since the Brexit vote and over 75% said they experienced personal attacks, from verbal abuse, being told to ‘go back’ to their country or being called names, such as ‘terrorist’, ‘prostitute’ or ‘bin scrappers’.

For young people who think of Britain as their home, these experiences are deeply distressing - many told about the disruption to their sense of identity, like Arthur: “I moved here when I was six years old, and even though I speak English with a British accent, as a result of using the language for over 11 years, when people find out I am Polish, I often face racism and discrimination. I find that I belong as long as no one finds out y nationality.”

The rise in hate crime rates was put at 41% by a Home Office report in the year immediately after the Brexit vote, with 5468 incidents recorded. This is likely the tip of the iceberg- young people said they do not normally report incidents, as teachers or police would not treat these incidents seriously- possibly because they are white. As over 500 young people, half of the participants, described incidents they were victims of or they witnessed, the evidence shows that being white is not a protective factor for young people from migrant background living in post-Brexit Britain. To protect themselves, young people said they started avoiding speaking their home language in public, learnt to put on a local accent or tried to ‘blend in’ through the clothes they wore or their appearance. Fears of discrimination and attacks leads young people to deny who they are and their multicultural identity.

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/eastern-europe-brexit_uk_5accc2f5e4b0152082fdd6c8?ec_carp=7211846813776112354

Nigel Farage's very racist Reform Party has a legitimate shot at forming the next UK government. Nigel Farage has gone on the record displaying their hatred for Eastern Europeans.

Farage made his bold claim during a Wednesday morning broadcast, questioning host Nick Ferrari directly. 'If I said to you that swans were being eaten in Royal Parks in this country, that carp were being taken out of ponds and eaten in this country by people who come from cultures that have a different... would you agree it happened, is happening here?'

He later clarified his belief that the alleged perpetrators were Eastern Europeans from nations where such practices might be culturally acceptable. The Reform UK leader framed the incident as evidence of broader cultural clashes brought on by mass migration, a theme central to his party's 2025 platform.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/nigel-farage-caught-saying-eastern-europeans-are-eating-our-swans-in-royal-parks-what-did-he-mean/ar-AA1NguYf

Which the hateful allegation of eating swans and carps is the same thing as JD Vance claiming that Haitians are eating cats and dogs.

Or how about Untermensch was a slur to mean to anyone of Eastern European descent.

It was mainly used against "the masses from the East", that is Jews, Roma, and Slavs (mainly ethnic Poles, Belarusians, Czechs, Ukrainians, Russians and Serbs).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Untermensch

The Aryan master race conceived by Adolf Hitler and the other Nazis graded humans on a scale of pure Aryans to non-Aryans (who were viewed as subhumans).[10] At the top of the scale of pure Aryans were Nordic-type Germans and other Nordic-Aryan Germanic and Northern European peoples, including the Dutch, Scandinavians, and the English.[10] Latins were held to be somewhat inferior, but were tolerated; and the French were thought to have a suitable admixture of Germanic blood.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_policy_of_Nazi_Germany

Or Finnish people in immigrant to the US.

Acrimony toward Finnish social radicals in Minnesota's political milieu reached a head in the case of John Svan and 15 associates. On January 4, 1908, a trial was held regarding whether John Svan, a socialist, and several other Finnish immigrants would become naturalized United States citizens or not, as the process only was for "whites" and "blacks" in general and district prosecutor John Sweet maintained that Finnish immigrants were Mongols. Sweet linked the "socialistic ideology" of Finnish radicals with other collectivist East Asian philosophies to underscore his position that Finns were of an Asiatic frame of mind that was out of harmony with American thought. The judge, William Alexander Cant, later concluded that the Finnish people may have been Mongolian from the beginning, but that the climate they lived in for a long time, and historical Finnish immigration and assimilation of Germanic tribes (Teutons)—which he considered modern "pure Finns" indistinguishable from—had made the Finnish population one of the whitest people in Europe. If the Finns had Mongol ancestry, it was distant and diluted. John Svan and the others were made naturalized US citizens, and from that day on, the law forbade treating Finnish immigrants and Americans of Finnish descent as not white.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitions_of_whiteness_in_the_United_States#Finnish_Americans

Italians had no protection under the law in the US for a period of time. Italians were considered to be white and we're not given any protection.

The 1891 lynching of eleven Italian men in New Orleans following the murder of police chief David Hennessy highlighted this precarious position. Though legally white, Italians were not fully accepted into the social privileges associated with whiteness. Public reactions to the lynching often portrayed Italians as inherently criminal and racially suspect.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitions_of_whiteness_in_the_United_States#Italian_Americans

This is why racism is a social construct created by the ruling class. The definition of whiteness can and will change at the behest of the ruling class to justify oppressing anyone who doesn't fit the the parameters of being white. Even though historically Irish, Eastern Europeans, Finnish, and Italians have skin color that is white and are not considered white.

[–] LeninWeave@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

White people can be racist against white skin people cause the concept of race is social construct designed by oppressors to colonize and oppress anyone.

This is true, but the distinction between "white people" and "white skin people" makes it clear that the boundaries of "white people" are in effect defined by who is not a target of racism. It is, as you say, a social construct.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Frankly I usually just default to saying fuck the Anglo-Saxons.

[–] LeninWeave@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

A lot of "white" people aren't Anglo-Saxons, though.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] LeninWeave@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This makes no sense. A lot of non Anglo-Saxons are as white as Anglo-Saxons. As I said:

the distinction between “white people” and “white skin people” makes it clear that the boundaries of “white people” are in effect defined by who is not a target of racism

If I understand your point correctly, it's that some people who are sometimes in the category of "white" can be victims of racism in some situations because they are on the margins of whiteness. That's true, but it doesn't make racism against white people real.

Saying "racist" things about white people is not racist against those on the margins of whiteness who are sometimes conditionally white, such as Slavic people. You can be racist against Slavic people in certain contexts by saying racist things about Slavic people (and generally in those contexts Slavic people are not treated as "white" because that's what "white" means), but not by saying "racist" things about white people (which isn't possible).

[–] Sharkticon@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You seem to be confusing who you are replying to here.

[–] LeninWeave@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No, "Frankly I usually just default to saying fuck the Anglo-Saxons." appears to be an attempt to say that's an equivalent or better statement than saying "white people" because being "racist" against white people might hurt actually marginalized groups. That's not true and I explained why.

[–] Sharkticon@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Don't know about all that. I just noticed that you quoted someone to a third party and I assumed you had done that mistakenly because I don't understand why else you would do that. Don't really care though you do you.

[–] LeninWeave@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Oh, no. To clarify, I was quoting from one of my previous comments that user replied to in the same thread, above where we were currently discussing. It was an "as I said".

Edit: I literally said "as I said" before the quote.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

I have no idea what you are talking about here nor who you are quoting.

[–] Tetragrade@leminal.space 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

You aint a real leftist unless you swallow every sabotage stance ever invented by COINTELPRO.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_Hoc_Committee_for_a_Marxist-Leninist_Party

[T]he time for building a multinational party has not yet come. Since Blacks are more advanced politically than whites (as are Latins, American Indians, etc.), the amalgamation of all groups in one party would result in fragmentation, disunity and the rapid dissolution of such a party. Racism is still so strong as to separate all but the most revolutionary of comrades. [....] Blacks must work with Blacks, Latins with Latins, whites with whites.

- An Undercover CIA Agent

[–] LeninWeave@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The fact that "white" once excluded "Irish" under certain conditions doesn't make anti-white racism real.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Racsists love to "um akshually the Irish weren't white, ergo anti-white rascism is real somehow"

Btw, one of these crackers copy pasted the I Have a Dream speech to prove that anti-white rascism is real. They aren't sending their best

[–] LeninWeave@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago

They view racism as an idea from which material forces arise, rather than the other way around.

Btw, one of these crackers copy pasted the I Have a Dream speech to prove that anti-white rascism is real.

lmao

[–] Tetragrade@leminal.space 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Amazing. You a Mossad asset, or just helping them for the love of the game?

[–] LeninWeave@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You got me, Mossad agents want you to understand whiteness.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

michael-laugh could you imagine a bigger blow to Zionism than people actually understanding whiteness as a category and how its weaponized by them lol

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf -1 points 1 week ago (3 children)

There is no such thing as anti-white racism.

That's fun when uttered in intentional irony, satirically mocking the implausibility, ignorance, bigotry, denialism, etc. But I suspect you are saying that in all seriousness.

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

someone can be prejudiced against white people but simple prejudice is not racism on its own. racism requires social structures

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

takes 2 seconds to pull up

racism

/rā′sĭz″əm/

noun

  • The belief that each race has distinct and intrinsic attributes.
  • The belief that one race is superior to all others.
  • Prejudice or discrimination based upon race.
[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 2 points 1 week ago

academic language is more precise than vulgar usage of terms

[–] LeninWeave@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm genuinely baffled that you think I or other people who have said the same thing are being ironic. As others have pointed out, racism requires power structures. Anti-white "racism" isn't real because it has no power structure to enforce it.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

not enough people know racism != bigotry

edit: okay, i guess i have to expain.

explanation of the difference between racism and bigotrywhat most people call racism is a form of bigotry. in this case what they are talking about is discrimination, hate speech, and hate action based on the socially derived construct of race. what race has been throughout the ages has changed. but some contributing factors to race are phenotype (skin tone, bone structure, hair color, eye color, other physical attributes), national identity, language spoken, and religious practice. in our current age of scientific racism, the most common factors for discrimination on race are phenotype and familial belonging through genetics.

racism is influenced by bigotry, but does not require bigotry to sustain itself. usually racism is established through bigotry and then maintained through access to capital. what racism is is structural social imbalance based on race. racism requires a power shructure that favors one group based on the socially derived construct of race at the expense of another, or multiple other, groupings.

one of the most common misconceptions is that whiteness is determined by skin tone. it is not. whiteness is access to privelege in a color-coded racist society. let's start by using the racist structure that's most familiar to me to explain. i live in the so-called united states. i have always live in majority minority neighborhoods. the fact that this is even possible, for me to have lived my entire life in majority minority neighborhoods, suggests a problem. my current neighborhood, my neighbors are all pale. they are, however, not white. they don't get to be white because the primary determinant of whiteness in the so-called united states because they have accents and dress a little bit differently. for this, the determiners of whiteness, the police, harass them. in otherwords, the police use their access to violence to maintain a racial hierarchy that my neighbors don't get to benefit from because they're not white, they're pale.

this is what is meant when people say "you can't be racist against white people." if you could, that would mean they're not white, because racism requires you having access to privelege in a racial hierarchy and whiteness is who benefits from that. you can be biggoted against white people. and in fact white people with proximity to poverty frequently endure bigotry for not performing whiteness correctly. often, because they've grown up in majority minority neighborhoods and have picked up social behaviors from people who do not get to be white, be that how they talk, how they dress, or even how the approach problem solving. if you've ever heard the term "white trash" you've heard a slur for poor white people that often the people around them take more offense to than they do.

edit 2: boo me all you like. @LeninWeave@lemmy.ml and i rarely agree, and in this case we do, and i'm gonna celebrate that for us. go read a book or something

[–] LeninWeave@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I liked your explanation and thought it was good. I'm confused by multiple people in 2026 commenting and voting in a place called "leftymemes" not understanding such a basic concept as "racism requires privilege".

You can tell it's true even by thinking about it quickly without any deep analysis: a definition of racism based purely on prejudice would treat "cracker" and the n-slur at categorically equivalent, which is obviously ridiculous.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Of course they are serious. Because there is no such thing as anti-white racism

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I long for the spirit of MLK's sentiment, when he said:

I have a dream that one day on the red hills of Georgia, the sons of former slaves and the sons of former slave owners will be able to sit down together at the table of brotherhood.

I have a dream that one day even the state of Mississippi, a state sweltering with the heat of injustice, sweltering with the heat of oppression will be transformed into an oasis of freedom and justice.

I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character. I have a dream today.

I have a dream that one day down in Alabama with its vicious racists, with its governor having his lips dripping with the words of interposition and nullification, one day right down in Alabama little Black boys and Black girls will be able to join hands with little white boys and white girls as sisters and brothers. I have a dream today.

I have a dream that one day every valley shall be exalted, every hill and mountain shall be made low, the rough places will be made plain, and the crooked places will be made straight, and the glory of the Lord shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see it together.

This is our hope. This is the faith that I go back to the South with. With this faith, we will be able to hew out of the mountain of despair a stone of hope. With this faith we will be able to transform the jangling discords of our nation into a beautiful symphony of brotherhood. With this faith we will be able to work together, to pray together, to struggle together, to go to jail together, to stand up for freedom together, knowing that we will be free one day.

This will be the day when all of God's children will be able to sing with new meaning: My country, 'tis of thee, sweet land of liberty, of thee I sing. Land where my fathers died, land of the pilgrims' pride, from every mountainside, let freedom ring.

And if America is to be a great nation, this must become true. And so let freedom ring from the prodigious hilltops of New Hampshire. Let freedom ring from the mighty mountains of New York. Let freedom ring from the heightening Alleghenies of Pennsylvania. Let freedom ring from the snowcapped Rockies of Colorado. Let freedom ring from the curvaceous slopes of California. But not only that, let freedom ring from Stone Mountain of Georgia. Let freedom ring from Lookout Mountain of Tennessee. Let freedom ring from every hill and molehill of Mississippi. From every mountainside, let freedom ring.

And when this happens, and when we allow freedom ring, when we let it ring from every village and every hamlet, from every state and every city, we will be able to speed up that day when all of God's children, Black men and white men, Jews and Gentiles, Protestants and Catholics, will be able to join hands and sing in the words of the old Negro spiritual: Free at last. Free at last. Thank God almighty, we are free at last.

Before the Orwellianisms.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 0 points 1 week ago

michael-laugh You're a clown