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Are there programmers that still don't use AI? (lemmy.world)

submitted 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) by CodenameDarlen@lemmy.world to c/programming@programming.dev

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Four months ago I asked if and how people used AI here in this community (https://lemmy.world/post/37760851).

Many people said that didn't use it, or used only for consulting a few times.

But in those 4 months AIs evolved a lot, so I wonder, is there people who still don't use AI daily for programming?

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[–] kindnesskills@literature.cafe 36 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

Of course.

My reasons for not using AI are the same as they were four months ago and will be the same in four months, regardless of what the models can or can't do.

Ask again in four years.

[–] CodenameDarlen@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

What are your reasons?

The place you work don't force you to use it?

I've been noticing all companies are forcing devs to use AIs to be more productive, even for simple things like write git commits.

[–] kindnesskills@literature.cafe 27 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I noticed how quickly my own skills started deteriorating when trying to work with it. I'm trying to build my skills, not outsource them.

I also don't love the environmental impact, nor the immorality of how they got/get their training sets for the base models.

If my work tried to force me to use it, I would be looking to change employer. Or lie and say I use it. But our AI use is heavily regulated and generally disencouraged, so luckily no issues there.

[+] CodenameDarlen@lemmy.world -34 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think your code being used for training is a concern anymore. They'll eventually keep finding new codes until it reaches its peak. Refusing to share your code for training will just postpone the inevitable, AI code will improve to its peak sooner or later.

[–] kindnesskills@literature.cafe 17 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

You replied to only one of my points, and that's not even what I said...

They train new models on base models, and I'm talking about how they scraped the internet without permission or how websites sold their users data without compensation and how no one was ever given any opportunity to opt out of sharing your work and your words to train these base models on.

Without that grand scale theft we would have no base models anywhere near what we have now.

I'm not opposed to willingly sharing, I'm opposed to profiting from stealing.