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Some 8,790 Americans sought citizenship in the UK, either through registration or naturalisation in 2025, according to Home Office data published Thursday.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Lolz. The UK? The one that's about to install the Reform Party?

You idiots. You imbeciles. You're just rats jumping from one sinking ship onto another.

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Reform are an absolute joke at the moment, from my understanding. I doubt they will be winning an election any time soon.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)
[–] flabberjabber@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

It does seem to be a downward trajectory at least though. Let me cling to a little hope please :P. Perhaps the debates will swing it in Polanski's favour; he is the only one who lays out a reasonable plan for working folks.

I hope the wider British public wakes up before the election. But, pretty much all of the mainstream media encourages their base instincts to blame immigrants at some level, rather than the wealthy. They are caught in a propaganda loop. Some of that influence is obvious (The Mail), some of it is very subtle (BBC, TheGuardian - editorship).

But I'm not overly optimistic. It took them way too long to realise the Tory leopards were eating their faces.

Americans coming over here is quite laughable. Good luck guys, you'd be better off somewhere that has a relatively young democracy and/or dictatorship in living memory (Germany and Spain look pretty good from where I'm sitting - but even Germany is a little bit O.o).

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

It does seem to be a downward trajectory at least though.

They're off their peak, as they're being forced to try and govern in the smattering of local elections they've already won. Also, Reform is getting larded up with Tory and New Labour refugees. The joke I've heard is "this may be the first boat to get sunk by the rats jumping on board".

I hope the wider British public wakes up before the election.

The public is constantly being "woken up" by a hysterical national media. It is, if anything, too awake. Like a man on a coke bender who hasn't slept in days. They're incapable of supporting any kind of moderate liberal campaign for fear of these candidates being too nice to Muslims or Gays or KGB agents or pedophiles.

you’d be better off somewhere that has a relatively young democracy and/or dictatorship in living memory (Germany and Spain look pretty good from where I’m sitting - but even Germany is a little bit O.o).

Germany is absolutely fucked. The AfD is polling on par with Reform, atm.

Spain is caught between a dozen different rocks and hard places. I'd say they at least have some nice HSR, but two derailments in as many months is fucking bleak. All of Europe is once again staring down the barrel of "Oops, all out of money", thanks to their inability to tax billionaires or nationalize critical industries. It's going to be a repeat of 2010 if the US economy repeats 2008.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

I came to the UK over a decade ago. It's much better than the US. Not all that bad. The fascist media has been loudly broadcasting propaganda about decline, but

some of it is very subtle (BBC, TheGuardian - editorship)

Nothing subtle about the BBC, it's had 14 years of Tory appointments to senior positions, and Starmer has done nothing to correct the imbalance. The Guardian has always been centrist-- for example when they bought into the "Corbyn is antisemitic" lies and jumped on the Labour Together bandwagon, but even before that, they've always had a big representation of old SDP hands and other non-Tory anti-socialists. I fully expect they'll be turning their guns on the Greens, now, trying to keep dead-duck Starmer afloat a bit longer.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk -1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Polanski is starting to fall out with his party. He, a committed zionist, while his party wants to pass a resolution defining zionism as apartheid. It’ll probably end in tears before the next general election.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago

There's an out-of-context quote where Polanski is saying Zionism doesn't have to be inherently racist. And, back in the early days after 1948, there were indeed socialist Zionists who were committed to equality for Palestinians. But they were soon pushed aside by the hard-right faction. So I'd differ from Zach and would argue that this is inevitable in a colonialist, nationalist enterprise.

There's a resolution proposed for the upcoming Green conference declaring that Zionism is racism. I'll be voting for it.

[–] flabberjabber@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Here's a paraphrased quote from Zack Polanski: "Zionism is Racism"

What are you even talking about? Israel owns all the other major parties, except the greens! That quote is 100% more than any leader of any UK party has ever said regarding Israel or Gaza.

Three very different sources on this:

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

He told LBC last week that Zionism wasn’t racist, and that it was just Netanyahu making it racist.

[–] flabberjabber@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

When pressed, he refused to declare Zionism racist in that interview. That's quite different from saying zionism isn't racist; he just wouldn't say that it was. Also, he's kind of right isn't he? From a nuanced perspective, it's Netanyahu and his party that have largely created the fascism at the heart of Israel, so I appreciate his point. But, I suppose theoretically, the fact he went to reflect before changing his position, could indicate a needed to gain permission from the person he is owned by before changing his stance.

This week he has said specifically, that zionism is racism under pressure from his party. I don't see that as the act of a committed zionist, but then again is it just verbal buttering? He's seemingly willing to go so much further than Starmer, Badenoch or Farage in his anti-Israel speech. If he was owned by Netanyahu like so many politicians are, he wouldn't be able to say this freely surely? It also shows he's willing to go with consensus of his party which is also a good sign.

That said I've been fooled before by music to my ears; so it comes down to a matter of trust doesn't it? Do we trust him? There's no telling before reaching power. He's been transparent about his finances at least; and doesn't appear to have been bought like many other politicians. But whether or not he's a Trojan horse for the left, who has a hidden master, is impossible to see at this stage.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 2 points 2 days ago

From a nuanced perspective, it's Netanyahu and his party that have largely created the fascism at the heart of Israel

From its creation, Zionism was racist. It sought to abandon the Jewish tradition of nation being shared belief, to a nation based on race. It seeks to build an exclusively Jewish state, to the exclusion of all others but particularly the arabs.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The next general election is in 2028. Polls now have no predictive power that far into the future.

Also, the UK is riddled with push-polling.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago

The next general election is in 2028.

We just had a by election yesterday

[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Can't really fully outrun the decline and sociopolitical chaos of the West if you just go to a different "province" of the West, but that's probably where they fit in the best so what other options do Americans have? They're not gonna go to China (when just learning French is almost an impossibility), they're not gonna go to the Gulf countries or idk Singapore (even though in the big cities I'm sure you can get your booze, and there are often softer laws for the pagans/polytheists/atheists/whatever and harsher laws for the local Muslims)... It doesn't seem like they have more appealing choices and America keeps falling down the stairs so it's kinda now or never.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It doesn’t seem like they have more appealing choices

Right, so why leave at all? Just moving from the frying pan to the fire.

Maybe you get two good decades before you have to run away again? Ideally, people stay and try to rebuild and whatnot but I understand their decision too.