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[–] grue@lemmy.world 93 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (3 children)

I'm sad that the relevant xkcd is kinda obsolete now (because it's been long enough for that research team to finish doing its thing).

[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 30 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Google photos is alarmingly good at object and individual recognition. It'll probably be used by the droid war killbots to distinguish "robot" from "human with bucket on head."

[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 10 hours ago
[–] white_nrdy@programming.dev 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

you linked to the page, not the image

[–] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

What would be a "nearly impossible" task in this post-AI world? Short of the provably impossible tasks like the busy beaver problem (and even then, you would be able to make an algorithm that covers a subset of the problem space), I really can't think of anything.

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

Deterministic answers from AI

[–] Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 hours ago

I think more important would be non-chaotic answers. It doesn't matter too much if their not identical if the content is roughly the same. But if you can get significantly different answers from trivial changes in prompt wording, that really does break things.

Still doesn't mean it's correct though.

[–] Vigge93@lemmy.world 7 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Most AI are deterministic, it's only a small subset of AI that are non-deterministic, and in those cases it's often by design. Also, in many cases, the AI itself is deterministic, but we choose to use the output in a non-deterministic way, e.g. the AI gives a probability output, and will always give the same probabiliies for the same input, and instead of always choosing the one with highest probability, we choose based on the probability weight, leading to a non-deterministic output.

Tl;Dr. Non-determinism in AI is often not an inherit property of the model, but a choice in how we use the model.

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Okay, probably fair. I've only been working with LLMs that are extremely non-deterministic in their answers. You can ask same question 17 times and the answers have some variance.

You can request an LLM to create an OpenTofu scripts for deploying infrastructure based on same architectural documents 17 times, and you'll get 17 different answers. Even if some, most or all of them still manage to get the core principals right, and follow the industry best practices in details (ie. usually what we consider obvious such as enforcing TLS 1.2) that were not specified, you still have large differences in the actual code generated.

As long as we can not trust that the output here is deterministic, we can't truly trust that what we request from the LLM is actually what we want, thus requiring human verification.

If we write IaC for OpenTofu or whatnot, we can somewhat trust that what we specify is what we will receive, but with the ambiguity of AI we can't currently make sure if the AI is filling out gaps we didn't know of. With known providers for, say, azurerm module we can always tell the defaults we did not specify.

[–] pebbles@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Wouldn't you just set the temperature to 0?

[–] sudoMakeUser@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Still going to be non-deterministic for any commercial AIs offered to us. It's a weird technology. I had a link to an article explaining why but I can't find it anymore.

[–] pebbles@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Ah yeah I was wrong. You set top-k to 1 to get a deterministic output.

[–] gothic_lemons@lemmy.world 6 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Do you have a link explaining what deterministic means in the context of AI? Preferably for noobs

[–] nogooduser@lemmy.world 19 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Deterministic means for the same input you always get the same output.

For AI it would be if you ask it a question multiple times using exactly the same words you would get the same answer.

[–] gothic_lemons@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago
[–] Fatal@piefed.social 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

I think 100% autonomous robotics and driving is still at least 5-10 years away even with large research teams working on it. I mean truly robust AI which is able to handle any situation you could throw at it with zero intervention needed.