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He's not wrong, but he's also partly to blame for this. He did nothing to quell the fissures forming between the two sides. He didn't drop out of the 2024 race like he said he would until it was too late. His stutter and old age contributed greatly to looking weak. His communication of his policies was abysmal. His stance on the Israeli genocide was terrible. He was weak. It took Trump all of a month to destroy everything Biden spent four years building.
He'll be the last liberal I ever vote for. I'd rather sink the ship than have another Liberal as president.
I'll be voting for the next democrat whether they are a liberal or progressive.
Accelerationism is never the answer it costs way too many lives.
How that's incrementalism working out for you? You've gone from the party of someone building houses for the needy to someone denying a genocide and telling protesters to shut up. We told the DNC what it would take to earn our vote and their solution was 'Im speaking'
They haven't chosen the next democrat yet. Now is the time to be screaming that no one wants another corporate democrat, but we sure would love someone to come in and clean house and support working people.
I'm generally with you, but consider fig 1:
I hate that meme is simplifies a complex situation to the point of adding nothing to the conversation.
Bruh you are literally arguing with like, THE ratchet.
SatansMaggotyCumFart is a fascist and pro-genocide. All that matters to them is that they mantain ideological control of the party.
And I respect your opinion, but I'm sick of the status quo of liberals capitulating and giving the elites and Zionists everything they want. I'm sick of this lie I've been living my entire life.
hes the best president of my lifetime and what came out of his administration given the situation in just one term was amazing. I see so much finger pointing. He did not drop off early enough, no kamal did not run a good campaign. He did not single handedly override congress in a trumplike manner to stop isreal. I blame the folks who voted for trump or did not vote to allow his victory pure and simple. Its always easier to destroy than fix or build and its that much easier when you ignore the law. I don't want any democrat to be a trumplike badguy criminal but for us good people and good reasons. That type of figure will destroy us as much as trump does.
Fair enough, but I don't think this is the way forward for Democrats and if it's what they choose they'll be leaving folks like me behind. They had better hope there aren't many folks like me.
Well its the primaries now and this is the chance to get the most progressive democrats in the competition. You can only effect your representatives but that is how representative democracies work. It kinda sucks for me because we have a contested senate seat and one I definately don't like who is in the lead and one I do who is doing the worst in polls but there is another canidate who is better than the front runner and close to him in polls but I would prefer the other lady. Anyway I now have the choice of voting for who I want 100% or voting in the hopes of keeping the more blah canidate from being the democratic canidate. So its a lot like a general election choice. Let me put it this way. The front runner now has ads claiming he is looking to abolish ice but I can 100% say he was not doing that even as of two weeks ago but the opponent who is catching up to him was admant about that very early on (which is definately a point in her favor but she is still kinda establishment and I would prefer the other). This is for the illnois senate seat so Krishnamoorthi, Stratton, or Kelly. Basically I like kelly but would rather have stratton over kishna*. What do you think as someone ready to jump ship. Would you be happy if I voted for kelly and krishna* won? Would you want me to vote stratton even though kelly is a possibility. I mean maybe you would prefer one of the others over my placement but I assume progressives would also prefer kelly. What will make you happier with the democrats and remember its not a guarantee. Tell me as a progressive you like stratton over kelly and it will make it easy for me.
I'm no longer concerned with winning. I'm more concerned with keeping my personal morals intact in this world of snakes and demons. If a candidate fits my criteria I'll vote for them, if they don't I won't. If that leads to a fascist takeover and the end to our way of life, so be it. I'll be at peace with myself which is now my top priority. I'm not scared of death or the end of the world. I'm scared of compromising myself.
Its funny because this is how I said people should be and intended myself but this is not about winning in the general. Which is what I was thinking about when I have said as much as you have here. Its about a centerist (and heck im a centerist) type democrat being the democrat on the ticket (and someone who I feel talks one way and does another) vs someone who seems a bit better all so I can gamble that the best one wins. I mean im sure krishna will be getting certain types to be talking about how bad the democrats are but maybe not with stratton so much. Then again stratton has been leuitant govenor and does not have a federal voting record to scrutinize. She might just be better at appearing better all said and done. She has been pushing to abolish ice but again from a state elected position that can't really do anything but call for it. Kelly is to me the best canidate and the most progressive but voting for her could hand it to krishna*. This is what democracy is and at the end of the day we actually have to live with the results of these elections. Now krishna* is still light years better than the best republican and 100% I will vote for hime in the general if he wins but I have to decide to gamble with kelly or mitigate with stratton. Heck the only reason I can be so unsure is because krishna* is not as bad as a republican so I can contemplate voting for kelly and we still have the general. If this was the general I would 100% vote for stratton because I could not take the risk. Again we have to live with our decisions. I sometimes feel folks just can't stand the responsibility of being in a democracy so want to take the high ground and claim our end situation is then other peoples fault because they took the high ground. (holy trump I have been using the star character and did not realize it would trigger markup type stuff)
I get where you're coming from, but I'd still vote for my personal best candidate regardless of their viability. I feel like being against the elites and Zionists isn't that much of an ask from a candidate. I'm just tired of the liberal Democrats saying one thing and doing another. They've been doing that to me my whole life. I have to set up some guardrails or I'll lose myself.
yeah and kelly who I like and just compare krishna to her voting as they were both in the house. well both had to not run for the dem spot on their house seats so if they lose they will be out. That means if kelly does not win the senate then we will lose a nice progressive democrat from the federal legislature. sttraton again is state so its not as big a loss. krishna having someone else in his house seat might very well be a good thing as long as its a democrat. Ill tell you I am very divided. This has been one of the hardest decisions I have had in an election and its a primary. Honestly im not going to vote based on folks who I have no idea who they are on the internet. I have local folks to talk this stuff around with but I just wanted to express how complicated a democratic system is as well as the responsiblity of voting not just to you but whoever other actual human being us people are out there. I have a feeling many don't vote in primaries and don't really reflect on the decisions but will monday morning quarterback the trump out of the election later. Im not saying you do that im just expressing some frustration I have with the average american and lets face it those who bother to vote are the best of us. Man Im still so jelly because of the write in guy who is not in my district who I wish I could vote for.
I agree, voting isn't simply casting a ballot. That's why I can't in good conscience vote for those that will do harm to my people or others. I'm a very active voter actually. I haven't missed a local election since I turned 18, decades ago. Unfortunately my local votes are all but meaningless as my district is 70% Republicans.
yeah all the same if you don't vote for someone who might take out the republican you are losing your chance. the hanging chad thing in florida came down to a few votes. republicans have faced losses in heavily republican areas because of all the bull trump they have been doing. if a bunch more in your 70% do that and yours is not there to support. well you, me, we all live with that. clear conscience is great but living in a modern functioning democracy can be pretty nice to.