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Aren’t EVs mostly a thing to save the car industry, and not really in the end all that good for the environment? Between the ethics of the supply chains, to the actual environmental impact of material extraction, the benefits really only matter if all car owners swapped right away, and even then only begin to go carbon positive over a long time. While I realize not everywhere has transit available, where it is a way more positive environmental impact can be had from people just ditching cars outright. Though here in the states this quickly runs into problems with urban planning literally being intentionally bad to force people to own cars to keep the car industry alive.
I also don’t really know a ton about the car industry because I avoid them at all costs, so I’m happy to be educated. Almost of of my knowledge is from urbanism perspectives…
No that's ICE talking points.
There's obviously no comparison to be made with public transit, public transit kicks the ass of everything else in environmental friendliness. But it isn't and won't be an option in many cities and countries, so cars are here to stay for the medium future at least.
Given that we acknowledge the need for cars, what about the higher environmental impact of manufacturing them? Research shows that based on the cleanliness of the power sources the grid is using, it takes an average of 6 - 24 months for an EV to break even and start overtaking an ICE vehicle in (reduced) emissions. That's not a long time in a car's lifetime, and that's not yet accounting for future economies of scale such as battery recycling that we don't yet implement.
Trains are the way, but.... Trains aren't going to be adopted in low-density areas and there are deffo situations where car is good
We also deffo need to quit burning carbon for energy and cars take a hella lot of energy
So you are correct, but we also need to get off fossil fuel cars regardless
Electric cars get like 140 mpg eqiv when powered by coal plants. They get waaaayy more when solar powered.
They will also be much better environment-wise once we get the majority of battery material from old batteries
They should use another car in that image tho. F'n don't put swasticars on your PSA. Will not age well