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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

It absolutely is, I want USA to go back to the optimism and respect for human rights they had in the 70's.
Cooperation is generally a good thing, but it's impossible to cooperate with USA now. Their values are simply too different from ours.
We (EU) support democracy and human rights, USA support authoritarians and corruption, and work against what used to be shared values.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

We (EU) support democracy and human rights,

Many migrants on boats would disagree, as well as many African nations.
Still leagues better than the US though.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

EU has helped a lot boat migrants, and it's not a human right to enter EU.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 1 points 48 minutes ago

EU has helped a lot boat migrants,

Sure buddy.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I want USA to go back to the optimism and respect for human rights they had in the 70's.

The 70s? Like, during the Vietnam war? Or when they installed Pinochet? The US never cared about human rights.

We (EU) support democracy and human rights

Like in Libya? Or Israel? The idea of the EU as a shining beacon of human rights is nothing more than PR; it's just another neocolonial empire. Respectfully, you should (re)learn some post-WWII history.

Cooperation is generally a good thing,

Cooperation for good is a good thing; cooperation between tyrants to more efficiently practice their tyranny is a bad thing. The historical EU-US relationship falls under the latter category.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

The Vietnam war started in 1955 and ENDED in the 70's.
There were also massive protests against that war in the 70's, and the peace-movement was way more active in the 70's than any other decade. Humanitarian values were clearly on the rise, and Carter was elected in 1976, the most humanitarian president USA ever had.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 points 1 hour ago

That's still 1970-1973, or four of ten years one would call "the 70s." That said, if you want more examples you can consult this list, among others. And let's not forget all the evil shit Israel got up to with American permission in this time period. Also... uh... mind responding to everything else I said? Unless you're conceding those other points, in which case fair enough.

Response to your edit: The peace movement was nice, but neither it nor Carter prevented the US from installing and supporting foreign dictators, arming Israel or giving diplomatic cover to the Khmer Rouge. Carter was a good man if I'm not mistaken, but the state apparatus he presided over was as unapologetically evil as ever.