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[-] CommanderM2192@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Why do you think it has to be only one or the other? Do you really think this is a problem with a single choice that fixes it? Where is your critical thinking?

There is no "all-in" on renewables. Renewables as they are today aren't truly renewable. Where's the lithium going to infinitely come from for batteries? How about the cadmium used to manufacture some of the most efficient and long lasting solar panels? How are we going to clean those up? I can bring up a TON of issues with "renewables". That doesn't mean we don't use them.

Stop being so simple minded, this is the most complicated problem we've ever faced and it cannot be solved with a simplistic "all-in" investment in renewables. I'm not even suggesting nuclear is an "economical" idea. The only person here caring about "economical" are the anti-nuclear shills like you.

We're past the point of needing to be concerned with economical. The reality is that nuclear power is the cleanest, most effective source of power we have right now. You really need to educate yourself on renewables, the manufacturing process behind them, and the infrastructure required to make them viable. They aren't as "clean" or "renewable" as you think.

Nuclear, solar, wind, and hydropower are what we need. You cannot achieve clean energy without nuclear and hydropower. It's literally physically impossible. The laws of physics are not on your side and I really don't know how to get this through to Luddites any more.

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 6 points 1 year ago

But why would you go with a more expensive option when a cheaper one exists? Nuclear is much more expensive than renewables, has at least as many problems in terms of its environmental impact, and won't actually come online for at least a decade. It's not a viable option.

And just to head off what I expect is the next pro-nuclear counter: environment and energy scientists have known for over a decade that renewables are perfectly fine at providing so-called "baseload" power.

[-] Wooki@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Cheaper fallacy of renewables never includes the baseline storage, it must, it has to exist at grid scale

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Baseload isn't a great argument when half of Frances 56 nucleur plants were down this year, even during peaks where prices rose above €3.

[-] Wooki@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Strawman called, said to say high❤️.

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