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(MEGATHREAD) In a joint attack, the US and Israel attacked Iran! Updates in comments!
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Worth thinking about:
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/iran-crisis-tests-trump-standing-with-young-men-who-helped-power-2024-win-2026-03-04/
Here in New Zealand, many smug "right-wing" commentators are supporting the war while ignoring that young white men voted for Trump largely because he was anti-war and promised no new regime change wars. So this isn't about Helen Clark or the New Zealand Green Party. I don't really care how unpopular the Green Party is with people on the fake "Zionist right". Many people on the right disagree with Trump's brutal bombardment of Iran and that should be the focus.
Young men are being tricked into hating Islam and supporting the mass-destruction of Tehran. Even Alex Jones is calling Islam a cancer which isn't what he was like 18 years ago. Someone needs to point out that Zionist jews have infiltrated the United States Government. They have either bought Trump or blackmailed him. Trump voters should be furious that a tiny foreign country, Israel, has so much control over America's foreign policy. Not just that, but also the fact that Zionist talking points are being promoted in "america first" circles and right-wing media.
How does "wars for Israel" fit into "America first"? Why should Israel's security determine U.S. policy? Dual citizens should be banned and these right-wing idiots sipping wine while children die really need to think about the entire situation, rather than just score points against "the woke left who are defending the moolars". That was never the issue.
This is bad analysis that lacks class consciousness. The ruling class of usa and israel are mostly the same people. There is no infiltration the zionists are american and british bourgeoisie and the american and british bourgeoisie are zionists.
The Bourgeoisie have always controlled empire and used colonialism as a way to get away with things they can't do at home. When the british people decided that slavery and genocide weren't helping the empire the bourgeoisie who were making a killing off slavery and stolen land in america had a "revolution."
israel is the same sort of colony only this time the bourgeoisie decided to pretend it wasn't a colony so that they could plausibly deny that they were engaged in genocide and expansionism.
The plan for "greater israel" is a plan for a white supremacist apartheid slave empire where the epstein class are treated as gods, the white zionists are the management class and everyone else is slaves.
Good description, thanks.
It doesn't. But you know what pointing the finger at Israel does? It absolves the West of blame and blood on their hands, and THAT is why people like Alex Jones support this narrative. They still can't accept that Anglos are the bad guys and have been for centuries. This is how they cope.
Alex Jones doesn't seem to be blaming Israel and he's always stayed away from hating on Israel, even recently. As for me I've been too optimistic because I falsely believed that there was some Ron Paul energy from 2007-2013 that went into MAGA. I'm not in America but from what I'm seeing, most Trump supporters follow the cult 100% and they really believe that it's "smart" to have this war and cut oil off from China. Part of it is just "owning the libs". To hell with these idiots. They will complain when the shi'ite refugees arrive but they won't even ask why there are refugees. FML.
No they are not. They are doing what their class as a westerner does. Trump is just a representative of that class. The "disagreement" is whether this is the most cost (money and lives) effective of maintaining whhite supremacy. The western masses are deeply reactionary and make up the imperialist elite against the global south. It is not "billionaires" vs the rest of us. Maybe consider using this oppurtunity to learn what the labour aristocracy / bourgoisie proleteriat truly is (eg How Europe Underdeveloped Africa by Walter Rodney)
TLDR "Israel first" is "America first"; one just has to understand what USAmerica actually is.
https://redsails.org/masses-elites-and-rebels/
This language you're using is verging very uncomfortably close to "Jews control everything" talking points, comrade.
Israel has the influence it does because of lunatic fundamentalists wanting to bring about the End Times and a legion of career opportunists who want to reap the chaos; not because of Jewish conspiracies to control the world.
I think there have been some rather sophisticated psychological campaigns against the American population by Israel, but I'll take your point about the religious nutters and career opportunists. Of course, it can't be a conspiracy if people openly allow all of this to happen. I'm among the younger millennials and Americans my age have had 20+ years to wake up to the realities. I've had strong doubts for a long time, ever since I watched some of Alex Jones' DVDs in 2008-2009 (when he opposed both parties). I'm not even in America but I learned a decent amount during the Bush and Obama era. At this point there is no conspiracy only complicity :(
This is just Nixon again. Trump didn't need to be bought or blackmailed (although both are a possibility), he just lied, like he always does
Yeah it's sadly possible that he really is that stupid to do this at his own free will. He'll pay for it and Americans will pay for this too. They could build their country and have better jobs, roads and services, but they'd rather piss it all away. Pathetic. America's insulation from foreign issues is always worse than I think. Some people in America really believe that stealing Iran's oil and killing its people will somehow make america great again. In any case, it sure as hell is not "america first".
I used to think of Israel as just another American proxy to support American hegemony in the region. However, I’ve never seen a proxy be able to drag the U.S. into a war that is as risky as this one.
Sure, a win against Iran might collapse the Axis of Resistance which would enable Israel to colonize the Arab world with great success. But a loss… a loss could be the nail in the coffin for the American Empire. If the U.S. is forced out of West Asia it simply won’t be able to meet its ridiculously high energy needs.
It’s speculation, but I have to imagine Trump’s people are panicking behind the scenes to some degree. American administrators are always evil, but they haven’t been this stupid for quite a long time if ever.
Yeah I was shocked to be honest. Even more shocked when the government here in New Zealand came out with a bunch of Trump/Netanyahu talking points. The war is a huge gamble and self-defeating, we'll eventually see some kind of revenge attacks against U.S. bases (and/or citizens) around the world. I listened to a clip by Alex Jones the other day and he said that all the generals were against recommending this war, except for the general at CENTCOM. Not sure if it's true but it sounds right. Why would a trained military person recommend a war that has global consequences, when there is no threat to the United States? The cost/benefit of this doesn't work for the U.S. but for Israel it's just great, they can one day expand their borders.