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Disclaimer: I pretty much don't like Rust, but most criticism of it boils down to culture war.

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[–] Avicenna@programming.dev 62 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (5 children)

Why would a programming language destroy an operating system?

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 12 points 8 hours ago

If your tinfoil is thick enough, no coherent thought can penetrate.

[–] protogen420@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 7 hours ago

I think this is about how apt will depend on rust and then debian will need to drop some architetures it supports

[–] joulethief@discuss.tchncs.de 37 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

No, no, the architectures! The Debian architecture (apparently)!

[–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 20 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Processor architectures maybe. They put Rust into Debian and it's so bad that now e.g. amd64 is ruined forever for any OS and won't see any new processors in the future. We'll have to move to a different architecture. I didn't watch the video since I treasure my brain cells too much but that's what I choose to read into it.

(A more reasonable reading is that Debian now ships a kernel that includes Rust code and coincidentally has also dropped builds for several obscure architectures but I do not feel obliged to assume reason with a title and thumbnail like that.)

[–] TripleZ@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Badly chosen title and thumbnail aside. It's actually the 2nd reason. With Rust now part of the kernel, the kernel won't build for a number of architectures. Whether the architectures are obscure or not is debatable. I sure wouldn't want to debate one who still uses them though. Either way, the fact that the kernel won't be compiled for these architectures is true.

[–] lambalicious 4 points 10 hours ago

So it's not "Rust destroys Debian", it's "Rust destroys Linux"?

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 18 points 14 hours ago

It's 70-80% culture war bullshit, the rest is actual complaints for the language (or at least the use of language) often bundled with culture war bullshit.

[–] lambalicious 4 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Partly it's more of "destroy an ecosystem". Among languages, Rust is at the frontlines of a continuing trend to remove GPL-licensed, community toolkits and put corporate-friendly, AI-friendly toolkits in their place, eg.: replacing grep with openaigrep, which would basically be step 2 in the process of privatizing or corporatizing the Linux ecosystem (and leads to the loss of a number of user freedoms).

[–] fruitcantfly@programming.dev 10 points 9 hours ago

Hopefully nobody tells the corpos that they can just use BSD if they want a MIT licensed kernel and user-land

[–] Neptr@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Licenses don't matter when corpos don't care anyways. Especially for training LLMs. They don't care about copyright. I choose to use tools based on there merits over simply going "it has my favorite license." Even though I say that, I still prefer AGPL even though I understand that of the corpos want to steal, they'll steal it.

[–] lambalicious 2 points 8 hours ago

That's true, for now.

Licenses might not matter now but if enough of a communal current for respect of licenses and of punishment for license breaking ramps up, we might be able to see something like (L)GPL class action suits against large corporations, at which point it becomes possible to at least seek reparation for previous damages.

But as with anything and everything law-related, licenses are declarations of intent. Their validity is only substantiated by the holder's capacity to pursue punishment.