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[–] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 15 points 3 days ago (2 children)

First off, the luddites were right back in the day.

Second, just because you can use something effectively doesn't make it good in general.

There are people who can have multiple credit cards for years and never carry a balance, or walk into a casino with $100, lose it all, and quit right there.

But most people can't, and being one of the few that can doesn't make it safe or good overall. Credit cards and casinos are still predatory and a detriment overall to the population.

I puffed a few cigs back in high school and college to see what all the fuss was about, didn't get it. But I personally know multiple people that did the same thing, got hooked almost immediately, and took years to quit. Cigarettes are bad for you and highly addictive. The fact that they never hooked me doesn't change that.

Third, I'm not sure how using LLMs is "fighting against big tech." unless you just mean using their tools to build FOSS more effectively.

But that's the whole point, it's not at all clear that LLMs enable that for most people. In fact, there's already quite a bit of data to indicate the opposite. That using LLMs results in worse code, worse development of skills like critical reasoning and problem solving, worse productivity, worse security, and undeniable environmental harm.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 days ago

unless you just mean using their tools to build FOSS more effectively.

Until Anthropic eventually claims that they have ownership of any software written with the help of Claude.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

They were not right. What are you wearing now? You don't destroy the machines - you take them.

[–] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

So FOSS Devs using ChatGPT are taking them...how?

Yeah, you can't, because it's not claimable, it's proprietary software, even the "open" models are restricted in their licensing and usability.

Perhaps local models will make some positive difference in the future, but likely not. I suspect that decades down the line, we will see LLMs in a similar light as asbestos or Teflon. Things that were hailed as "miracle products" that seemed amazing at first, but had incredibly destructive side-effects that we only found out about long after the proliferation.

If something is overall destructive to society, I don't want to "take" it, I want it gone.

I don't want worker-owned casinos, or online gambling markets, or cigarette companies, I want those things gone. They don't make us better off or more free, they harm and enslave us.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

Good luck with that bruh

[–] petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How do you propose they should have taken them? Like, just lifted them in the night while the cops were busy jerking off?

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

By changing society and policy to benefit everyone rather than a few oligarchs? There are more of us than there are them.

In fact, this is exactly what we've been doing since the ludittes and you might even say it's working rather well, slowly, but working nevertheless.

[–] petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And this is something you have to do instead of breaking them? The policy pen must be held in both hands while writing, I take it.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And what you broke the machines then what? This teenage angst is cringe my dude.

[–] petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Life continues as it was, or you build another. That's kind of a silly question.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Great, you really accomplished a lot by breaking the looms then!

Your absurdly strong pro technology fervor is actually blinding you from seeing this normally.

To get a model ship out of a bottle, you either need to reverse whatever method got it in there, deconstruct the ship, or break the glass.

To get concessions out of your masters, you have to able to think like this.