Hello Lemmians:
Lemmy, Mastodon and specially Lemmygrad are oceans of peace (mostly) because fashy smartpants, botlikers and stomtroopers get b& like a boss.
You may have heard of ForoCoches (a better name would be ForoFachas). Despite its old bulletin board style, it attracts hell of a lot of traffic in the Spanish language. According to metrics, it is THE biggest forum in Spanish.
The problem? It has been utterly corrupted by fascists and nazis since 10+ years. Go take a peek, the meekest thread in General goes like "we'll put Pedro Sánchez and the feminists against the wall at minute 0 of Civil War 2", and "who do you prefer, a Charo (= Karen) or an Austrian Painter?"
Well, it's utter shit to be honest. Only good for shitposting, but even that gets tiresome.
Now, let's talk about the model this shithole and similar spaces follow. Basically you pay to get an account, which can be banned and then you pay again for a 2nd account. Then there's the ads. So it's a bunch of rich technobros living off the hate.
Sounds familiar? Yes, it's the same shit on X.
Let me apply a bit of Lenin here. The left needs to own the means of production. When applied to the means of communication, this is why I support Canal Red. But we also need internet commons such as spaces like Masto or Lemmy. We also need to own the memes of production ;) So this is also why I support Lemmy since I created an account here 2 months ago or so.
The actual question
Wtf can one do to remedy the situation? Persuade people, open instances...? I believe we absolutely need something like Lemmygrad but in Spanish and meme the fash out of existence (also using tools other than memes ofc). Or maybe there's some mythical leftist space in Spanish I've never heard of.
EDIT: In case I'm not being clear: we need politized, militant internet hangouts.
EDIT 2: As always thanks for the replies! :)
@Rogelio_Marciano@lemmygrad.ml
First of all, congratulations on the article. It says many things, and they're very true, even if they upset the vast majority. It's almost a reflection of reality, with slight variations, but it's the truth.
Secondly, we should all be glad to read that someone is writing about Spain or Spaniards. It's not very common, and it's not very usual for us to be seen as having a certain prominence from the outside, whether for better or for worse. The ego and pride of being Spanish, as some might think, is still quite strong and burdensome in certain aspects, but it motivates them a lot.
The sad thing about all this, as you so rightly point out, is that if this monopoly, this right-wing argument about how any Spaniard is and how they should be, were to disappear overnight, many could die, just like that. The simple fact that any individual—which essentially means all of us—wouldn't say what they shouldn't do, what they should do, and how they should feel as Spaniards would be a huge problem.
For example? Well, the most mythical phrase that someone once uttered aloud, summarizing the anti-fascist sentiment to the extreme, was something like, "Death to intelligence!" That said it all and more. For the traditional establishment, for the inherited establishment, for the monarchical establishment, for the entrenched and typical right wing, the very idea of thinking or defining oneself as thinking is an insult and a huge problem, just to conceive of having to consider more than one point of action, of moving forward, proceeding, or accomplishing. For them, there is only one way, one, and that's it.
Finally, nothing to remind you of the proud Iberian: someone in shorts, with suspenders, with an enormous, white chest, but always with a toothpick in his mouth, who, shouting and beating his chest, will tell you that he knows very well who he is, what he is, and why he is.
And this text would never occur to any self-proclaimed fascist Spaniard to be translated into any other language. They should learn to read and understand Spanish if they truly want to know Spain and its people, but obviously we'll make an exception because not all of us are like that.
Best regards.
Primero de todo felicitar por el artículo, dice muchas cosas y muy ciertas aunque moleste a la gran mayoría pero es así casi una copia de la realidad, matices mas o matices menos pero una verdad.
En segundo paso alegrarnos todos de leer que alguien escribe algo de España o de españoles, no es muy común y no es muy habitual que nos leamos como con cierto protagonismo desde fuera, sea para bien o para mal pues el ego orgullo de español como algunos podrán pensar es todavía bastante largo pesado es ciertos detalles, pero les motiva mucho.
Lo triste de todo tal como muy bien menciona es que si de un día para otro desaparece este monopolio o este argumento tan derechista de como es y como debe ser cualquier español es que se pueden morir muchos, así tal cual. El simple hecho de que cualquier particular que viene a ser todos entre todos medio no diga lo que no debe hacer, lo que debe hacer y debe sentirse como español sería un enorme problema.
¿Ejemplo? Pues la mas mera mítica frase que en su momento alguien dijo en voz alta y resumiendo al máximo en contra de los fachas algo así como "¡Muera la inteligencia!", con eso decía todo y más. Para el patronato clásico, para el patronato heredero, para el patronato monárquico, para la derecha arraigada y tan típica lo que es pensar o definirse como pensar, es un insulto y un problema enorme, solo de concebir que tiene que considerar mas de un solo punto que hacer, que avanzar, proceder o realizar. Para ellos solo hay una forma, uno y gracias.
Ya para terminar nada hacer recordar como es el humano ibérico orgulloso, alguien en pantalón corto, con tirantes, con enorme pecho en blanco, pero sin falta del palillo en boca, que gritando y pegando golpes en pecho te dirá que sabe muy bien quien es, como es, y por que es.
Y este texto a un buen español facha jamás de los jamases se le ocurrirá traducir a ningún otro idioma ajeno, pues que aprendan a leer y entender español si es que de verdad quieren conocer España y sus españoles, pero obvio haremos excepción porque no todos somos así.
Saludos cordiales.
Thanks for the support / gracias por el apoyo 😀
Not far from where I worked is a street bearing the name of José Millán Astray, founder of the Spanish Legion and author of the utterance. The full quote is:
"Death to intelligence, long live death!"
As a teacher, you can imagine how sympathetic I feel to that quote.
The requisites for being a far-right Spaniard are common to all fascists: be male, stupid, xenophobic, mysoginist, traditional, religious (albeit hypocritical), defend the rich, lick boots.
They're mad because the 1% who fit the description cannot convince more than 10% - 15%. And that's through truckloads of $$$ spent in propaganda.
i'm suspicious of any fediverse instance that blocks hexbear by default and you should be too