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I mostly lurk here, and I know we've had this discussion come up a number of times since Discord's age verification changes were announced, but I figured this video offers value for the walkthrough and comparative analysis. Like me, the video authors aren't seasoned self-hosters, and I've still got a lot to learn. Stoat and Fluxer both look appealing to me for my needs, but Stoat seemingly needs self-hosted servers to route through their master server (unless I'm missing something stupid) and I replicated the 404 for Fluxer's self-hosting documentation seen in the video, so it's looking like I'm leaning toward a Matrix server of some kind. Hopefully everyone looking for the Discord exit ramp is closer to finding it after this video.

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[–] aquovie@lemmy.cafe 9 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Old fashioned forums are old fashioned. Circular logic but there's a lot holding them back.

  • Create a new account for every single niche forum? No thanks. We need a federated solution.
    • Lemmy/Piefed/etc is almost there
  • Antiquated restrictions (e.g. Log in to view images)
  • Antiquated UI - People want emojis, reactions, rich media, etc
  • PHP paid the bills once upon a time but now it's hard to get anyone excited to make big new features for forum software
[–] cdf12345@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

How hard would it be to create an open source identity token that would allow user authentication on any forum or site that will accept it?

Something with a public/private encryption system to authenticate users without the content needing to be federated.

[–] aquovie@lemmy.cafe 1 points 1 hour ago

You might be thinking of the original OpenID system. Instead of the OAuth2 thing we have now with OIDC (e.g. "Login with Google"), OpenID Connect didn't require the site to be configured in advance with the auth provider. You just gave it your email address and off you went.

OIDC is generally superior security-wise but it's held back by each site to establish a relationship with the upstream site.

[–] gdog05@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

You've got some points but I would argue that antiquated UI will be what saves the Internet. Keeping out bots and AI scrapers with good old fashioned phpBBS systems that have been around for twenty years will be our clean data as we build systems outside of AI and the techbro properties.

[–] aquovie@lemmy.cafe 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I don't see how web 1.0 style sites are resistant to AI or bots. It's kind of the opposite. Bots/AI are really good at pure text stuff.

[–] gdog05@lemmy.world 1 points 20 minutes ago

Because they block access without signing up.

[–] other_cat@piefed.zip 5 points 4 hours ago

I've also always liked how old school forums are structured. Nice, neat categories and most active/recent stuff on top.