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Fork time? Maybe all the anti-systemd zealots were right all along...

Edit: To address whether it is likely that this change will affect users: Gnome is planning a stronger dependence on userdb, the part of systemd where this change is being implemented. https://blogs.gnome.org/adrianvovk/2025/06/10/gnome-systemd-dependencies/

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[–] vk6flab@lemmy.radio 84 points 9 hours ago (7 children)

In my opinion, storing a date is pretty much irrelevant unless there's a process that validates the supplied date, otherwise every Linux user was born on 1/1/1, if not, an administrator can "fix" that

Furthermore, that systemd thinks that it's the place to store such information is in my opinion beyond absurd.

Who appointed that project the source of age truth in the Linux ecosystem? What discussion was there, who was consulted and where was the vote?

[–] Decq@lemmy.world 6 points 3 hours ago

Come on, you know it's going to be 1/1/1970 most of the time.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 8 points 4 hours ago

You're right that asking a user for a date is next to useless. However, that isn't a reason to not fight this stuff. Asking the user for the date is step one to getting people accept it. After that they'll point out that people were lying, and they'll need our government ID to verify (and link us to activity). It's all a step towards a surveillance network tracking every move you make on your computer.

[–] marcie@lemmy.ml 28 points 6 hours ago

1/1/1

every linux user is jesus confirmed

[–] skyline2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 54 points 9 hours ago (4 children)

Exactly. This is a massive overreach, and it is crazy that Poettering is even considering merging this.

[–] eleijeep@piefed.social 5 points 4 hours ago

He thinks that systemd is desktop linux.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 12 points 6 hours ago

it is crazy that Poettering is even considering merging this

You've, uh, seen systemd, right? Cmon; this is just one more section for the cancer to eat.

[–] JovialSodium 34 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

I would say the majority of objections to systemd pertain to perceived overreaches of the project (perceptions I generally share). So in that sense, it is kind of on brand.

[–] Marasenna@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 7 hours ago

and it is crazy that Poettering is even considering merging this.

Not familiar with him then?

[–] blobjim@hexbear.net 10 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

This change is mostly in the userdb code which is a sub-component of systemd that stores user records. It isn't in the PID1 process. But I could see an argument for having it be part of the desktop environment in GNOME or something like that instead.

[–] njordomir@lemmy.world 7 points 8 hours ago

They haven't fessed up yet that that's part of their plan. I expect to hear from them after they've passed the first half.