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[–] Patnou@lemmy.world 21 points 7 hours ago (7 children)

yea that was really good news. I ment so a small part of me can be proud again to be American?

[–] djmikeale@feddit.dk 1 points 1 hour ago

A trick is to acknowledge that there's many alternatives. You can choose to be proud of your state, county, or simply just say "yeah my country is a cunt, so what?" And realize pride of your country doesn't impact whether or not you've been a good, nice, or kind person.

[–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

If you're a birthright citizen, why would you be proud over something you did nothing to achieve? It's also not your fault, so there's nothing to be ashamed of either.

It shakes out a little differently if you're naturalized, but only marginally. That naturalization test isn't much of a barrier.

[–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 18 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Despite having done things that seem dated in other countries, you guys did plenty of good

Just look at all the technological innovation coming from your country that saved a ton of lives (yes you have a spud healthcare system, but these innovations will help humanity for the rest of its existence, they cannot be taken away)

[–] Pricklesthemagicfish@reddthat.com 0 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

Don't forget the Big Gulp

[–] sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today 14 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, yes we are. We have been for pretty much forever. We fucking suck.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago

We're finally learning that it indeed sucks to suck

[–] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Well, you freed the slaves that you had enslaved. I mean, their descendants anyway.

I guess the answer is yes. Some small part of you can be proud to be American again. All you have to do is not think about it too hard, and you could try yelling "Silver Bullet" and shotgunning a Coors Light every now and then. That could maybe act as a stand-in for pride, anyway. C'mon buddy, it's ~~not~~ that bad...

In all seriousness, individually Americans are pretty good people. Well, a few of the ones I know personally anyway. That's like a couple of baker's dozens! That's something!

[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)
[–] TractorDuffy@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

You don't think there are any good reasons to be proud of being an American? Why not?

[–] atomicorange@lemmy.world 12 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Usually it’s considered pretty stupid to be proud of things you didn’t have a hand in. Why be proud of where you were born, when it was just random chance? I can see being happy or feeling privileged to be an American - that at least suggests what you’re appreciating is that it benefits you. Saying you’re proud implies that being from the USA is some sort of moral success and it’s just not.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

I don’t know if you want to call it something other than pride, but I’ve never learned another word for what I would feel if John Brown had been my grandfather. It’s not my achievement, nor would I feel entitled to it in any way, but it would make me feel warm and grounded. My actual grandfather was a wife beating alcoholic, and I feel shame about him, even though he died before I was born and I had nothing to do with this.

I think that’s pretty common, even if it’s not logical, which happens a lot with feelings. I know several people whose parent(s) died when they were teenagers and in a period of tension with each other. All agree that the others shouldn’t feel any guilt for being normal teenagers when their parents died, and that the other parents knew they were loved, but most of them still feel as though they themselves had wronged their parents because of their teenagedom.