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[–] Garbagio@lemmy.zip 8 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

So when democrats are in power we need to close ranks to prevent the republican party from taking control, and when the democrats aren't in power we need to close ranks to prevent the republican party from keeping control. Got it.

Question: Do you see that you are repeating the exact failed lesson that is the basis for the article?

[–] someoneelse@lemmy.ml -1 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Look. As long as there are only two parties and one of them wants to turn the US into a dictatorship, there is not much more you can do. That's not a failed lesson. There are many opportunities to act in between elections, but come election time there is none. You can die smug knowing that you were right once you cannot vote or you can live pissed because the less bad alternative still suck hard.

Also, the democratic party has never had the control of congress and presidency for more than two years in a row. Not that I have much hope, but losing 4 elections in a row (two full presidencies) should at least have some impact on the republican party. And that's without taking into account that women, POC, LGBTQ+, immigrants, ... would have a much, much better life even if you maintain the status quo but with the democratic party.

Again, it's a shitty option, but there is literally no alternative. And focusing on democrats on the opposition and blaming them for shit instead of republicans in government who are actually doing the things is playing into the hands of the republicans, which by the way could remove Trump today from the presidency if they wished, so it's the whole party's fault, not Trump's.

[–] toad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

There will only be two parties as long as you keep voting for the same two parties. It aint rocket science

[–] someoneelse@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

There are two parties because the electoral system in the US creates an advantage to having two and only two parties. If they change the system, parties will appear. If they don't, any new party will at best supplant one of the current ones, but it will fall back to two parties anyway.

[–] toad@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

They will never change the system. It's as likely as a dictatorship suddenly withering away. It's not unheard of, but it can take decades. And them guys have nuclear weapons, so basically we're all fucked until we dismantle america as a country, somehow.

Honestly, our best bet would be to train separatist militias in mexican and canadians.

[–] someoneelse@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 hours ago

Not going to deny that. But before they get dismantled, they are wont to blow something up. As a dying breath sort of thing. And that worries me,. so I'd rather the death were peaceful, or at least as much as possible.

[–] Garbagio@lemmy.zip 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

See, this is why you're full of it though. You undercut yourself:

There are many opportunities to act in between elections, but come election time there is none.

Guess which one applies now. I'll give you 3 guesses.

[–] someoneelse@lemmy.ml -1 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

No. What is happening now is blanket criticism of the party, which is does not apply at all however you want to read it. You want to critisize specific politicians for specific actions, go ahead, want to organize primaries to get them out, perfect, want to start movements and pressure groups to change their policies, fantastic. But just saying democrats bad is 100% counterproductive, which has been my point from the start. Again, this is not the democrats are good, but they are significantly less bad than republicans and all actions should go through getting republicans out of there.

[–] toad@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

My friend in beyruth died while biden was the pres.

But ofc americans are the real victims, are they not?

[–] someoneelse@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 hours ago

No, in fact they are the agressors. And while pro-Israely politics are the same across both parties, the rest of the policies aren't that close. As I said, they are not good, just much better than the alternative.

[–] Garbagio@lemmy.zip 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

So first it's the wrong time, and when you're called on it then it's too generic an action, despite the article citing specific actions by specific senators and representatives. Got it. I know this trick: Next it'll be the wrong specific criticism, before everyone is racist for criticizing Cory Booker. Been down this book; can you try something new for me for once?

[–] someoneelse@lemmy.ml 0 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I see. You are happy that Trump won. Also that the democrats lost the senate with Obama and Trump got to appoint 3 Supreme Court justices. You could have started there.

[–] Garbagio@lemmy.zip 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)
[–] someoneelse@lemmy.ml 0 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

There are only two parties, either you prefer one to win, or you prefer the other or you don't care about which. There are no more voting options and the booth and it's preparations are times to be pragmatic.

[–] Garbagio@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
[–] someoneelse@lemmy.ml 0 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

It's more vote against red, no matter who., really. Sad, but true.

[–] Garbagio@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Not DRUMPF!

Come on bro, let's keep the thought terminating clichés coming!

[–] someoneelse@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 hours ago

What's your preferred choice?