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[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 18 points 9 hours ago

People are reacting to the headline, but the article is basically the opposite of what most people assume. This is The Atlanic. Their problem is that the Democrats aren't doing enough austerity.

Tbf, the US is heading towards a debt crisis. However, the reason for that is because of the absurdly bloated military budget and pointless adventurism, while the article frames it entirely in terms of "taxes are too low and we spend too much on social programs." How are the Democrats supposed to win without promising the voters anything? This is never addressed. But that's apparently the lesson the author thinks they should learn. Run on austerity, if you somehow manage to win, prioritize the debt - and then when they inevitably lose the next election because everyone's lives got worse, the Republicans will have more money to play with to fund things like ICE and the Iran War.

It's nonsense. Winning means promising QoL improvements and following through on them. Yeah the debt is a problem, but that's exactly why military cuts are necessary. Trying to solve the debt problem just creates a political problem, it's the sort of thing to worry about once you've already secured power.

[–] Garbagio@lemmy.zip 18 points 9 hours ago

God I hate The Atlantic. Good point, but they still had to shoehorn in

Both senators have promised to cover the cost with taxes on corporations and very rich households. But even if that were to happen, it would jeopardize everything else voters expect from the Democratic Party, such as expanding health-care access and investing in clean energy. There is a mathematical limit on how much additional revenue can be generated from raising taxes on high-income households,

Note that in one sentence they lump taxing corporations and rich households together, and then 2 sentences later they dismiss raising taxes on rich households to dismiss both prospects.

Note how they lump billionaires with "rich households," then dismiss taxing billionaires using a consultancy report on households earning over $400k instead of any rigorous economic analysis of taxing literal billionaires.

Note how even the consultant-written report calls taxing rich households a half-step, and that we need that AND MORE. The Atlantic is using a critique saying a tax hike isn't good enough to say that a tax hike isn't good. Note how they implicitly truncate the "enough."

Note how the consultant-written report has an entire section on the social good even the half-step measure will bring, and that The Atlantic will not report on this at all.

Note how at every step they implicitly push and reinforce the notion that anything beyond milquetoast neo liberalism with a veneer of progressivism is too far, even in an article criticizing democrats for doing the same.

Someone pointed out that things make sense when you realize democrats and republicans have the same bosses. I want to add, The Atlantic also has the same bosses.

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 29 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

They aren't dumb, they just have different priorities than you do. Once you come to terms with that, you'll see things differently.

[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 9 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

They all have the same boss. And it ain’t us.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 2 points 7 hours ago

That's because they politicians fear the Sociopathic Oligarchs more than the Citizens. We have to change that, with harsh, maximum sentence punishments for ALL their crimes. Put a bunch of politicians in prison for life, even execute a few, and they'll start listening to us, instead of the billionaires that are getting them killed or locked up.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

They aren't dumb, they just have different priorities than you

Could have just stopped there.

The truth is that they don't really care about us.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 42 points 20 hours ago

They’re still trying to court republicans, when they should be going for non-voters.

[–] EmpireInDecay@lemmy.ml 36 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

They still haven't learned from their mistakes in 2016.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 29 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

I don't think they've quite caught up with how the Republicans played dirty and stole the election win in 2000.

[–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 4 points 12 hours ago

They know, they see themselves as controlled opposition of the oligarchy, and fighting under their leadership is by design doomed to fail. But don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 9 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

I think that’s a cop-out. They were fully aware of what was going on, as was everyone else on the planet.

[–] daannii@lemmy.world 23 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

Most of the Dnc just needs replaced. And a lot of voters are working on it.

Illinois is looking like we have a nice un corrupt candidate to replace dicky durbin for his senator seat.

Juliana. She had no pac or aipac donations.

She has stocks but said she would sell them all. (We will see).

But either way. A good step in the right direction.

[–] criss_cross@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

I was shocked but so happy that Raja didn’t win. Dude had so many crypto bros bankrolling him.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 9 points 17 hours ago (1 children)
[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 9 points 12 hours ago

Exactly. Stopping Donald Trump might resonate with a few but it's not an agenda.

Obama won twice because he had a vision, even if it was more emotion than substance (hope, change, yes we can). Hillary's message was 'I'll use noise machines to ensure only my big donors hear the real vision' and Kamala didn't have much to say that stuck out.

Meanwhile the party is tied up in a bunch of issues that matter to their base but don't resonate with America as a whole, like trans issues and gun control. And they're almost as far in the pocket of big business as the Republicans.

If they got over themselves, drop gun control (which only alienates the rural moderate voters they need to win the elections) and focus on a handful of policies like clean up Washington and reform healthcare that every American should be able to get behind, they would mop up.

... And if the GOP would jettison the religious Evangelical agenda, give up the anti-gay anti-trans stuff and focus on small efficient government, THEY would mop up. But they also have to get rid of Trump.

[–] null@lemmy.org 9 points 17 hours ago

Have they tried courting the gen z vote by tacking 6-7 onto a campaign page for a candidate that already lost?

[–] BigMacHole@thelemmy.club 7 points 19 hours ago

Learn?

-Democrats!

[–] Wataba@sh.itjust.works 5 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Ok, sure. Can we purge the warmongering party of rapists and pedophiles, then focus on rebuilding?

Trying to renovate the loungeroom while the kitchen and bedrooms are on fire.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

So you're basically saying "can we win the election first and THEN focus on what matters to the electorate?"

The answer is no. That's not how you win elections, which the Dem leadership keeps demonstrating to the detriment of the people.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 6 points 19 hours ago

No, because they have to rebuild first in order to be able to accomplish that purge.