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[–] bonn2@lemmy.zip 237 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

I was wondering when I would see this headline. I wonder if any other big names will make similar statements.

[–] kabe@lemmy.world 110 points 5 days ago (6 children)

I also wonder whether or not grapheneos, or open source Linux OSs in general, will face any repercussions for failing to comply to these regulations due to the relatively low user count.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 116 points 5 days ago (47 children)

Hate to say it but systemd, the init system of most Linux distros, already has PRs with maintainer backing to implement DoB recording.

Some people can't kneel fast enough.

[–] portnull@lemmy.dbzer0.com 53 points 5 days ago (2 children)
[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 67 points 5 days ago (3 children)

The self-important creator of Systemd has personally blocked that PR, if I'm hearing correctly, which would suggest he or his employer Microsoft is all in on it.

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 30 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

It's an optional field in the userdb JSON object. It's not a policy engine, not an API for apps. We just define the field, so that it's standardized iff people want to store the date there, but it's entirely optional.

"I'm not picking a side" and "this future proofs standardization" is of little comfort, that is seriously suspect. I ought to look to alternatives to SystemD(odge the issue failed).

[–] njordomir@lemmy.world 17 points 5 days ago (1 children)

So in other words, "Sure we built the people-crushing machines, but we didn't wire them up or turn them on."

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 days ago

IBM, is that you?

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[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 17 points 5 days ago

He left MS in January

[–] portnull@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 days ago

Ugh of course. Thanks for pointing that out

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 31 points 5 days ago

That has already been closed

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 18 points 5 days ago

Maybe this'll take the shine off that wunderkinder mess and people will finally be free to choose something more reliable. I love how RH pushed this beta software so hard and my reboots are now just shite -- unreliable and occasionally ridiculously delayed.

I'll be glad to see the back of that metastatic shitball.

[–] yardratianSoma@lemmy.ca 10 points 5 days ago (2 children)

DoB recording, and ID age verification, are two different things though.

[–] Dojan@pawb.social 21 points 5 days ago

My OS has never needed to know my DoB before. What's it gonna do, make me a cake?

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[–] sphericalcube@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 5 days ago

I imagine people behind this law are pretty interested in this small but powerful user base. I would just boldly assume that a lot of people responsible for independent software and privacy advocates are using Linux etc. So its a interesting user base for sure. But regulating open source software luckily is pretty much impossible and they wont give up their(our) privacy without a fight. Also, we will see how much the user base will grow when these regulations get tighter.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago

They can simply say on their download pages that residents of Brazil and California are not allowed to use their OS.

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[–] TheLastOfHisName@piefed.social 68 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Linux Distros (so far) Refusing Age Verification

EDIT
I recommend going to Ageless Linux's site and reading up on their take on the whole issue. They clearly illustrate how poorly thought out the California law is.

[–] PabloSexcrowbar@piefed.social 23 points 5 days ago

I think this might be the first and only time I'll ever see Omarchy getting upvotes on this site.

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (7 children)

Linux Distros (so far) Refusing Age Verification

The systemd dude, ever so flexible as long as the request does not come from actual users, is already working on adding this into core components, though.

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[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 21 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Genuine question:

is Graphene a "big name"? They talk a big game and are probably one of the biggest alternative phone OSes but all results I can find are putting them at 250k users and less than 2% of the Android market share.

But, more importantly: Do they at all care about US government contracts? Red Had have RHEL. ubuntu have whatever they call their premium OS for enterprise users. Google and Apple are obvious.

[–] seang96@spgrn.com 15 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Big name for government backed hacking tools to list them separately on supported devices / OS cause it's more secure.

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[–] XLE@piefed.social 9 points 5 days ago

GrapheneOS has a deal with a hardware manufacturer, Motorola. I'd consider this refusal to be a big deal on those grounds alone

[–] bonn2@lemmy.zip 7 points 5 days ago

Frankly I think they are the largest os vendor that is going to take a principled stance on this.

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