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So I am being brought to one of these No Kings marches on Saturday. Any pointers on talking to libs in a way that they will listen and get curious about Socialism?

A couple orgs will be there including PSL, but from comrades' stories from the last two of these they don't actually bring up Socialism during their speaking slots and talk about imperialism instead. I would like to be more explicit in tying what is happening to Capitalism and especially try to get across that Trump is just a symptom of the problem.

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[–] MayoPete@hexbear.net 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

My goals are to agitate, get people thinking of doing things beyond "vote" and definitely doing something beyond showing up to marches. I think PSL is better in other places because here all they do is protests.

I don't want to send people to my org either outside maybe 101s. The problem is we are too academic and not practical enough. I want less theory, more action. The theory only appeals to a small subset of people. I also don't know if I should pitch some mutual aid because it sounds out of touch if the whole world is waves wildly... and my advice is to grow a garden?

Hoping hexbears have a better solution because I'm very disenchanted with the left in general. Feels like we just talk in circles and nothing material ever changes.

[–] Oskolki@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago

You could think of it like this:

There's

  • politically aware, unaware, active inactive members of society,
  • then there's those who try to lead people, those who follow instructions and those who observe, those who try to learn, those who imitate etc.
  • the ones who communicate things in-between.

Then there's problems of our societies, the contradictions, class struggles.

What are the problems? Who is attending the rallies? who is leading them? who isn't attending them? why do they attend them? why don't they? Who is delivering the messages, what means are they using? If it's the internet who is browsing the internet?

What would be the interests of a crowd that's gathered on a workday during work hours? what's their age? Is there a better way we could communicate? Are there people who we could draw to join? Are the organizers deliberately avoiding certain demographics of people? why? How could we get those inactive observers to join us? Is there a way we could survey people and direct those letters towards organizers? Perhaps people are too scared to speak their mind so what can we do there to get the point across? I could go on, but this is the sort of questions we have to ask.

It's tough. There will be clashing interests, all sots of stuff.

ideally if you're organizing for socialism you'd want a crowd that turns their head around and yells at you about their real problems that aren't being addressed and you'd know what to do, but this is seemingly not happening, there's a problem, are these people really socialists or are they here out of sympathy for the victims and their heart hurt? could they be turned into socialists? what stops them from it? Who are you and what do you want? Those are the questions all of us should be asking.

[–] jack@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago

I don't want to send people to my org either outside maybe 101s.

If you don't have an alternative, do this. Get your org to prepare for it. You can't gesture vaguely at things you'd like to happen - they need concrete alternatives.