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What Is The Deal With Trotskyism And Maoism? (lemmygrad.ml)
submitted 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) by asdasd201@lemmygrad.ml to c/asklemmygrad@lemmygrad.ml
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Edit: I'm from the Global South, I should've clarified that on the post. The lesson has been learned.

Many leftist movements, legit or not, call themselves either Trotskyist or Maoist and keep dissing Stalin for his “socialism in one state” policy and “ruining” Comintern and Deng Xiaoping for his “liberal” policies.

I want to know what they are trying to do by distancing themselves from the USSR and PRC while fetishizing Cuba and Vietnam—you'll only hear them talking about the Vietnam War, btw—and following either the guy who lost the power struggle or a literal Marxist-Leninist who supported one of the refused countries and founding the other.

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[–] amemorablename@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This is a good essay on the subject as western Marxism is concerned: https://en.prolewiki.org/wiki/Library:Western_Marxism,_the_fetish_for_defeat,_and_Christian_culture

For other places that fall into that trap, there may be different kinds of causes. For example, I don't think Maoists in India would be the same cause as that essay.

[–] asdasd201@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Our Trots and MLMs are different from their Western counterparts—at least in the past, when they fought against the government. But their constant denouncement of big socialist states confused the hell out of me.

[–] amemorablename@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Interesting. Any differences that jump at you in particular? Curious to know what it's like, where they may be coming from.

Edit: typo

[–] asdasd201@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 3 days ago

Iirc a famous streamer in my country was talking about the Maoist movements in the Global South (Japan, India, Türkiye, etc.) and Trotsky denouncing the Trotskyists. And criticized Stalin from the points I wrote in the post. He put that stream behind a paywall, so I can't rewatch it for now.