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Babies learn to deceive before they can talk, new study finds | Tactics used include denial, feigning deafness, and hiding things (www.the-independent.com)

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[–] Cypher@aussie.zone 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Science and scientific consensus are not set in stone, that you continue to reject new information only demonstrates your lack of understanding of the scientific method.

You asked if I was a parent and I elaborated. I don’t require any anecdotal evidence… the research findings are literally what is being discussed here.

Clearly you can’t cope with a reality where your child would attempt to deceive you. Their teenage years are going to be rather enlightening for you.

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

that you continue to reject new information only demonstrates your lack of understanding of the scientific method.

Did I miss something? Did you actually supply any "new information", other than your anecdotal evidence?

Before you accuse me of being close-minded, you should probably supply some actual data for my mind to be open to.

I don’t require any anecdotal evidence

Why did you supply it, then?

Clearly you can’t cope with a reality where your child would attempt to deceive you.

Adding "clearly" doesn't make any of your jumping to conclusions any less ludicrous. Stop trying to psychoanalyse strangers on the internet. That's what we here consider "dickish behaviour".

Their teenage years are going to be rather enlightening for you.

What? I said that you need a theory of mind that's advanced enough to deceive someone and that this stage of ToM comes at around four. Suggesting that I think that my child woudn't keep secrets from me as a teenager implies that I think that they'll never develop a ToM (which would be a severe mental disability). And where did I claim that?

This article isn't about teenagers, anyway.

[–] Cypher@aussie.zone 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Did I miss something

Reading the article apparently

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I read the article. That wasn't a study. That was a survey where parents self-reported for their children. Hardly a study that has any scientific merit.

Tat's part of science, too: Validate if the applied methods where actually worth anything. And aurvey of parents is not how you ro developmental science.

[–] Cypher@aussie.zone 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

https://research-information.bris.ac.uk/en/publications/the-early-deception-survey-eds-its-psychometric-properties-in-chi/

I did say I’d wait for replication but it is absolutely research. Again you fail to understand the scientific method.

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 0 points 2 days ago

You fail to understand quality standards in science.