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[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Why are you demanding that someone proves no advantage exists? If you find the level of proof ambiguous, then the null hypothesis must be that no difference exists. That's just basic respect for human rights and dignity.

Realize what you are suggesting. You are suggesting that trans women and girls be completely cut off from competitive sports in any form. Trans women are conclusively far below cis men in performance. We're just squabbling over whether some minute advantage exists over cis women. Trans women can't just go and play with the guys. You're arguing for trans women to be completely excluded from any form of sports whatsoever, a complete expulsion from an entire realm of human culture and experience.

If you're arguing for something so radical and cruel, the burden of proof is on you. The default assumption is equality. We don't take away civil rights on a whim. If it can be scientifically shown, on a sport-by-sport basis, that trans women have some massive advantage over cis women? Fine. In that case I might support a handicap system, or if that were not possible, exclusion as a last resort. But the burden for proof for that should be high. You're hurting real people here. Unless you can scientifically prove that some advantage exists, the default assumption must be that no advantage exists.

[–] Zozano@aussie.zone 1 points 15 hours ago

Why are you demanding that someone proves no advantage exists?

I'm not. I'm simply stating that there is a difference, it isn't a matter of debate. It's like saying Kenyans are better at sprinting than white people in general.

I believe that respecting trans people means being honest about the facts, and promoting equality. Both can be true.

You are suggesting that trans women and girls be completely cut off from competitive sports in any form.

You're arguing for trans women to be completely excluded from any form of sports whatsoever

that trans women have some massive advantage over cis women

None of these are claims I've made.

You're hurting real people here.

The only thing I'm hurting is the brains of the people who are jumping on the slippery slope, all the way to the strawman.