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How would you respond to the statement "Trans women are biologically male" ? (literature.cafe)

submitted 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) by Karl@literature.cafe to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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(I'm just trying to learn. No hidden mockery in this and this is no gotcha bs aimed at t women. I'm NOT transphobic. Just saw this in a debate and wanted to know other people's thoughts)

I just want to know:

Is this factually correct?
If it is, does it matter? Why or why not?
How would you logically respond to this?
How does this statement not contradict with Trans Women are Women

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[–] gray@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Edit: forgot point 3

There are many different perspectives on this. I subscribe to the old Judith Butler perspective that sex=gender and they are both a social construct.

No, biological gender is not in the sphere of facts. Chromosomes, genitalia, hormones and biology in general are in the realm of facts. Lumping them together into the category "sex" is social construction and not scientific (at least not part of natural science).
I don't think it is.
See above.
Trans women are simply women who were not designated as such at birth. No need to mix in biology. Therefore no contradiction.

[–] Karl@literature.cafe 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Thanks

[–] gray@lemmy.ml 8 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I want to add that the phrase "biological male/female" is often used for othering trans people. I know no useful purpose for the term and I suggest you avoid using it too.

[–] Karl@literature.cafe 4 points 9 hours ago

Yes. After all, all this is argument is only about words and lacking terminology.