Richard Stallman was right since the very beginning. Every warning, every prophecy realised. And, worst of all, he had the solution since the start. The problem is not Richard Stallman or the Free Software Foundation. The problem is us. The problem is that we didn’t listen.

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[–] lemat_87@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Forgive me if I trivialize, but we should not mourn too much: the obvious solution is to pirate it all. Do not waste time and energy for reinventing the wheel in the form of writing open source software. These resources can be used better for Revolution. Instead of diving into exhausting dispute and overintellectual arguments of Stallman, just do what said Marx: seize the means of production. That is, fucking pirate it. It is simple as that.

[–] underisk@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

There’s more to it than just having free software. The source code is important too because it lets people learn from it, improve it, and use it to write or improve their own projects. Free software is only half the equation.

Unless you mean pirate the source too, in which case yeah absolutely but easier said than done.

[–] lemat_87@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

All right, that's an argument. Also, having fun from coding is also a valid argument. Though, from my experience, it is easier to start learning programming from some simple, isolated cases, as in thextbooks, than from real life programs, which can be very nasty and domain-dependent.

[–] underisk@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

To start learning yes, but as I’ve gotten more experienced I find myself getting a lot more value out of real life examples. Cracking open a git repo and seeing how they did something can save me hours of reading documentation or at least give me a better context to grasp it. People learn differently from each other, and also themselves at various stages of their understanding.

[–] lemat_87@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

One time, I spent whole day arguing with some anarchkiddies about that, and no one gave me a short, convincing argument like that. Their posts were emotional rather than seeking for truth. That's the difference between debate and dialectics.

[–] underisk@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

I’m mostly just paraphrasing Stallman’s own arguments. They’re worth checking out. He’s not without his faults, but his reasoning in this area is very sound.

[–] wargreymon@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You are wrong at so many levels.

If you were to pirate something, not only it doesn't work all the time, doesn't scale to large corporations, the large corps control you.

The whole point of this is to gain full control, meaning legally, of what we think should be free.

[–] lemat_87@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago

it doesn’t work all the time

Neither FOSS. There are excellent programs in open source, but many are in some ways much inferior when compared to the cummercial. First example from head: many printers and other devices have drivers only for window$

doesn’t scale to large corporations

i consider pirating software for private use

the large corps control you

They are spying using regular software too

The whole point of this is to gain full control, meaning legally, of what we think should be free.

Why should we bother by unjust capitalist law? Today I shared with my students pirated books which would cost shitton of money in Poland. This should be free for education. But the law forbids it so fuck the law

[–] Freesoftwareenjoyer@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Pirating a program doesn't let you study what it does or change it. So you still don't control it. It solves nothing.