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[–] gian@lemmy.grys.it 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

No, disabled is normally a "verified" category protected by specif laws, but everything else should be equal opportunity, which does not mean equal outcome.

What she said, basically, is that in an imaginary ranking for the job, you cannot give a bonus to someone based on the fact that he is a immigrant.

[–] einkorn@feddit.org 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Immigrant is also a "verified" category. We have a whole federal ministry dealing with immigration related topics.

This is not about giving bonuses but eliminating disadvantages. Prejudice and outright xenophobia is a very real thing here still.

[–] gian@lemmy.grys.it 1 points 21 minutes ago

Immigrant is also a “verified” category. We have a whole federal ministry dealing with immigration related topics.

Also here in a form or another.

This is not about giving bonuses but eliminating disadvantages.

You give a "bonus" to an immigrant in the moment you decide that a certain number of jobs must be assigned to them.
You give a "bonus" to a woman in the moment you decide that a certain number of jobs must be assigned to them. You give a "bonus" to a man in the moment you decide that a certain number of jobs must be assigned to them.

All are bad it nothing else because you cannot be sure that for that specific job there are enough qualified candidates of the right category to fill all the available positions. Sure, you can ask people to study (help them, offer incentives etc.) for that position, but you cannot force them to study for that position.

Eliminating disadvantages means that everyone has the opportunity to try (and I totally agree with you that we must aim for this), not that someone could have it easier.
An immigrant has disadvantages ? Maybe, but to eliminate them you need to work on the causes and this need years, it cannot be done "just because" by law, the end result will be xenophobia (too easy to shout "immigrants takes our jobs") and the immigrant will still have the same disadvantages the next time since you only closed your eyes on the causes, simply ignoring them without resolving them, hoping they will go away. And sometimes to solve the causes you need to take some unpopular decisions.

Prejudice and outright xenophobia is a very real thing here still.

It was a problem also here, and probably it still is. And there are reasons, like there are reasons where you are. Not that they were/are justified or reasonable, but people (intended as masses) are stupid. And stupidity cannot be solved by law.