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Batteries have become much cheaper, making energy storage far more affordable.

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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world -2 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

This is actually one of the very few places that US tariffs make sense.

Not really if you want fair competition.

[–] Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

It's not fair competition if labor standards are far lower in the country being imported from.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago

Absolutely correct, we don't want a competition based on social dumping or highest subsidies.
That's why you make tariffs to compensate for that like the EU does, but EU has higher standards than USA, and is hit by tariffs in USA anyway, and although China has state subsidies, the 150% tariff doesn't make the competition fair, it simply excludes any car made in China from being sold in USA.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world -2 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

Why would the US want fair competition?

Like I said, the consumers do not benefit from the tariffs, the nation does.

[–] tburkhol@lemmy.world 4 points 22 hours ago

Because US businesses will only compete and innovate if you force them. Leave them safe behind ramparts of protective trade policies, and they'll keep coasting on 1990s technology, as the country as a whole slowly becomes a backwater.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

No the nation doesn't, it just degrades into further noncompetitiveness, and increased consumer prices.

[–] prodigalsorcerer@lemmy.ca 5 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Short term tariffs can allow domestic manufacturing to reach the design and scale to be competitive without tariffs. This was, in theory, the idea behind the 100% tariffs on Chinese EVs. Of course, none of the American auto manufacturers are doing anything with that leeway other than continuing to be terrible.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

You are 100% correct that this is the general idea, the problem is that USA actually had a head start with Tesla, (as painful as it is to me to admit.)
Now the lack of competition will only result in the loss of the lead USA had until just a few years ago.
Of course Nazi Musk and Nazi Trump undermine American exports, and no amount of US tariffs can compensate for that.

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world -1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Does the nation benefit when there’s no actual benefits like health care for the citizens?