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Okay, been a little quiet for reasons.
@Nath@aussie.zone
I've been waiting for this to go live to get back about how you can help. This is one way. https://transjustice.org.au/
Support the trans justice project. I suggest this as they seem really well organised and this project is happening now.
You could also suggest the company you work for do inclusivity training, Transgender Victoria offer what I understand to the best of this. https://tgv.org.au/training
Of course, there are many organisations you can donate to or volunteer with who support and or advocate for trans, gender diverse, non binary and intersex people. As well as the two above organisations, there is
https://transcend.org.au/
https://www.minus18.org.au/
https://www.switchboard.org.au/
All of these utilise skills from a huge range of fields so pretty much anything you can do they can use. There are more too, but these are the one's I can vouch for. Unfortunately queer orgs are low on the list of many government support initiatives so many of these organisations really do need money and or volunteers to continue their work. I volunteer a couple of afternoons a week, the odd Saturday and then a little bit every day for my role. I suggest you support these organisations as working alone can be challenging and they know what they're doing. Apart from that, keep up the anti-discriminatory language vibe here, it's a big deal for me personally to feel supported and safe here. Mental health outcomes are poor for a lot of trans people and I have to actively work on mine by only living in safe spaces. We all ultimately have to advocate for ourselves too. Some people have a lot less capacity for that than I do though and this outlet here forms part of that capacity. <3
Thanks Nath, Rusty and the whole DT family. Like, a whole lot!!! <3
EDIT< A single tear just ran down my cheek and under my chin after I posted this. I'm ok!
Oh yeah, see what I mean about the downvotes? ffs.
lmao. it's all my posts now. wow. someone is reading, well done, you have no idea about the level of persistence I'm capable of.
Have read this. I was particularly heartened by the statement on that TransJustice site:
This backs up what I was saying: You are surrounded by people who support you.
As to the downvoter: I did make an attempt at that. The database under the hood of Lemmy is overwhelming. Basically, it contains all the federated content. If a single aussie.zone user subscribes to a community on another instance, then that content is in the database. The example posted in the other thread doesn't work for us: It shows who has upvoted/downvoted a single thread. But that's not what we want to do in your case. I need to search comment tables for posts you have been in and then cross-reference the comment_like table for postid, userid and commentid.
I'm not a Database admin by trade, I'm ok at database stuff, but this is some complicated bit of table join logic. It might be beyond me, but I haven't given up, yet.
Maybe fuck the downvote button off while you’re at it? Why do we need it in DT? Everyone defaults to sort by new anyway.
Definitely looks like downvotes can be switched off but might be a community- or instance-wide thing.
Well we could trial it in c/Melbourne then. The only action is the DT anyway.
That setting exists, but it's instance-wide. It would be a pretty drastic change to all of aussie.zone. I wouldn't personally be against it, I never use downvote anyway. But, it isn't a change I could arbitarily make.
You're a legend Nath.
Assuming you are able to identify a serial downvoter (or downvoters), what do you intend to do with that information?
A fair question. And something that I have given thought to. It'll depend on what is turned up. Downvoting a comment on its own is not against the rules. So, potentially nothing.
Stalking a user across multiple communities, downvoting all their comments while otherwise not being engaged at all in those communities takes us into bullying territory. Reddit had a built-in defense against that activity. If you go to a user profile there and just downvote all the comments, they don't actually take effect against the target. Lemmy doesn't have that feature yet. From that point, we'll see. I honestly don't know if it's even possible to do more than just see the vote records. If I delete a downvote, Lemmy may simply restore it through the next federation sync.
Whatever it is, I'll be transparent about it. I'm also conscious of the precedent this might set. Neither Lodion nor I are much interested in poking through the database and manually touching anything lightly.