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A place to discuss positive changes that can make work more equitable, and to vent about current practices. We are NOT against work; we just want the fruits of our labor to be recognized better.
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- All workers must be paid a living wage for their labor.
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I'm not seeing how this is a problem for anyone but the employer and people who get ahead based on the quality of their ass kissing.
There are ways to objectivity measure productivity in some cases. Unions typically don't allow them to be taken .
This.constantly stating that promotions in management is only about sucking up is another problem with unions. They believe this false world view.
And then you get one self-exploiting nitwit who burns himself out because he doesn't know how to pace his fool self, and his record becomes the standard everyone else is held to. Then everyone has to burn themselves out trying to get promoted or, in cases where unemployment is high, just trying to keep their jobs. And if they get promoted, every level has ambitious burnout nitwits.
That's not what I said. I said that ass kissers have a problem with it, not that all promotions are due to ass kissing. That would mean that no promotion was ever awarded due to nepotism, or no promotion was ever denied due to bigotry.
Metrics can be abused. That doesn't mean metrics are bad, it just means that you have to be careful how you use them. Which most people who work with metrics already know.
Not using objective metrics is very bad if you want to get ahead of the lazy do the minimum person who was hired just before you. If you can do better work: you should be worth more money. Note that I said better and not more. While more is a factor; safety, higher quality, not burning out, and cost are all factors of better (you should assume there are more factors as well that I'm not aware of)
Oh. It's a good thing bosses can be trusted to be upright and virtuous and never play favorites.
If you're working harder than he is, it's because you're a sucker who is voluntarily exploiting yourself. The union is not constraining your boss' magnanimity; it's constraining his ability to exploit you.
Or your ability to exploit your workers.
No, the union is constraining my boss's ability to reward me for working harder.
Working for wage is not about exploitation. That propaganda is one of the problems I have with unions.
I can't imagine seriously believing this. Your worldview is based on overt denial of things I consider to be obvious and true. We have no common ground on which to have a conversation and I am uninterested in trying to argue with you. You've already convinced yourself of rank absurdity.