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All three Marines are expected to be discharged on "Other than Honorable" conditions which means they receive no benefits. They do not qualify for Veteran status either. They will be treated the same as a Felon on job interviews and for loans.
Their punishment is just 35 days of unpaid labor, plus the threat of poverty, discrimination and incarceration?
For millions of average Americans, that's just a regular day, and they didn't participate on the front lines of a coup.
That is fucking messed up
Other than illegal entry, they didn't do anything. There was no evidence of violence and they had their military careers ruined.
They went to an organised political event which turned violent, and instead of 'always faithfully' serving their communities by at least distancing themselves from the most violent by leaving, or even protecting their police colleagues, they willingly continued on to breach a guarded building so that they could prevent elected representatives from performing their duties.
And their punishment is to exist as a common civilian.
Either the Marine Corps oath is worthless, and/or their sentence is not a punishment, and/or this is a tacit admission that being an American civilian is punishment enough in itself.
For no reason other than being born, millions of people experience the same sentence. These two did something.
Have you ever been in a crowd of people? Like a huge close proximity gathering, a concert? Try squeezing though that when they are all angry people without assaulting someone or getting assaulted.
Also, the military and police are NOT colleagues, they are TOTALLY separate. Not even the same purpose, you can argue that they're brothers under serving a government, but by that logic then so are the postal workers, tax collectors, and judge.
Yes, including much larger protests. The estimate is only 2.2k people for Jan 6th, and that's for all four sides of the building. I was immediately next to an outbreak of violence in one large protest. It's much easier than getting out of the front of a concert, and I don't have anywhere near the strength of a marine.
You can also see them in the pictures freely and casually walking in with a significant amount of space in the images in the article.
Why make up excuses for them? They literally posted on social media afterwards about the second civil war and being part of history. They weren't there under duress.
I'm not making excuses, but admittedly I did not know about the social media posts, that is my bad and I am sorry.
WTF were they even doing there? This BS about "oh, they didn't do anything" is not going to fly.
They deserve "dishonorable" and a prolonged visit to Leavenworth. They are traitors who violated their military oaths by participating in a fucking insurrection, for crying out loud!
Finally, some good news.
OTH doesn't show up on a regular background check, and you are not required to disclose it. Not sure about bad conduct or dishonorable discharges, though.
They aren't getting a court martial? damn
GOOD.
No, they can still get some, look up "Honorable for VA Purposes".
They won't, that's for those with combat injuries.