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[–] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 18 points 2 years ago (9 children)

Also Stalin, in the lead up to the famine:

The Political Bureau believes that shortage of seed grain in Ukraine is many times worse than what was described in comrade Kosior’s telegram; therefore, the Political Bureau recommends the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Ukraine to take all measures within its reach to prevent the threat of failing to sow [field crops] in Ukraine.

Signed: Secretary of the Central Committee, J Stalin (Archive of the President of the Russian Federation 1932)

They basically knew that kulaks were sabotaging grain production in the Ukraine.

[–] CyberGhost@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 2 years ago (5 children)

And they did their best to stop them, right?

[–] MultigrainCerealista@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Look up the work of Mark Tauger. He is an economic historian who specializes in the period.

He describes the worst human-driven cause of the famine being the mass slaughter of livestock, cattle but also very importantly mass slaughter of horses used for meat and labor, by kulaks and Ukrainian nationalists.

He also describes the relief efforts made by the Soviets, especially once the higher leadership in Moscow began taking a more active role as the crisis deepened.

[–] CyberGhost@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Thanks comrade, can you please share the sources with me?

[–] MultigrainCerealista@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

A lot of his essays have been collected here

https://newcoldwar.org/archive-of-writings-of-professor-mark-tauger-on-the-famine-scourges-of-the-early-years-of-the-soviet-union/

He’s an academic so you also find a lot of his work on libgen especially if you search journals.

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

https://historynewsnetwork.org/article/169438

I can also toss in more citations later in the day too if requested

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