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Hertz put a first-time EV driver in a Tesla that was half dead, then tried to hold her financially accountable for getting stranded on the side of the road.


Now that EVs are filling out rental fleets around the U.S., drivers are going through an adjustment period full of hazards and inconveniences. A mother and daughter from Gurnee, Illinois, became trapped inside of a Tesla from Hertz, which the company rented out to them in lieu of an ICE-equipped sedan the woman had reserved in advance. After the dead Tesla stranded them, Hertz tried to put the woman on a do-not-rent list, despite being responsible for much of the trouble, as the woman tells CBS News.

When Becky Liebau and her daughter arrived to the Hertz counter, they were told the only car left on the rental lot was a Tesla. Liebau had never driven an EV; she had booked a reservation for a gas-powered car, but rental companies are notorious for taking reservations though not holding onto them. According to Liebau, this was around closing time and she had no other choice but to take the Tesla, which appears to have been a Model 3 based on the CBS report:

Disaster ensued for the mother and daughter, who had booked the trip to scope out prospective colleges for the 16-year old scholar. We could easily say this was due to driver error, but it’s not that simple. User error figures into the problems that left the woman and teenager stranded, but the onus rests on Hertz now that it’s bolstered its rental fleet with over 50,000 EVs. Especially when dealing with first-time EV drivers like Liebau.

And it’s not like it was for lack of trying on the part of the mother and daughter. Liebau says her daughter tried getting up to speed on the Tesla EV, going on the internet to learn how to to operate the fully-electric car.

Hertz had given the pair an EV that was reportedly under 50 percent state of charge. The Tesla showed approximately 90 miles of range left, which may have been enough to get Liebau and her daughter to a charger. Hertz, however, did not provide them with an adapter to use charging stations that don’t conform to Tesla’s charging standard. Hertz later suggested these adapters are often targeted by thieves. It’s hard to see why that matters, or why Hertz would mention this — other than to suggest it was acting in its own best interest.

The Tesla’s tires were also low on air and would have benefitted from a top up. What Hertz basically did was hand Liebau the keys to a less than half-charged EV with low tire pressure and a missing adapter for use at nearby chargers. The Tesla went dead as Liebau searched for a charging station, trapping the two inside the cabin. Liebau and her daughter had no idea how to get out of the dead EV, and their phones were running out of battery, too. Again, that’s user error, but no one at Hertz explained the proper procedures to Liebau.

No roadside assistance came from Hertz. The two were eventually towed by a driver they had tracked down on their own, who taught them to override the electric door locks. They were taken to a hotel nearby, and had to pay one of the maintenance workers there for a ride across the state.

Presumably, back to their home. A hefty bill was waiting for them, as Hertz tried to pin the blame on Liebau. She refused to pay the invoices, and the company put her on a do-not-rent list. Hertz only happened to reverse course after CBS investigators reached out to the company. CBS says that Hertz has now refunded all charges and has reimbursed Liebau for the expenses she incurred.


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[-] th3dogcow@lemmy.world 90 points 1 year ago

Rental companies should try putting some stickers inside the vehicle which indicate where the manual door release is. It wouldn’t cost much and would at least save people unfamiliar with Teslas from getting trapped like this.

[-] ElderWendigo@sh.itjust.works 115 points 1 year ago

Or maybe the damn door release should work regardless of power? I shouldn't need special training to get out of a car in an emergency. Making an interior "manual release" that is hidden just seems like dangerously negligent design.

[-] whatupwiththat@kbin.social 24 points 1 year ago

he was burned alive in his car cause couldn't operate the ridiculously complicated door

[-] rikonium@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 1 year ago

Oh he should’ve just watched this 10-minute tutorial on how to open the door on YouTube after crawling to either the front seat or trunk!

[-] hypelightfly@kbin.social 52 points 1 year ago

If you use the manual door release in Teslas it can apparently damage the trim when you close the door again. Wonderfully designed cars.

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

I have trouble believing any engineer was part of that decision. The default is always human safety. Hotel doors electronic locks will disengage during a blackout, elevators will stop in place rather than introduce a new risk by moving the humans further, your seatbelt is still uncomfortable and will always be and keep you alive, if an industrial machine senses danger the solution is too cut power to anything that moves.

Electricity is less reliable than a human, and if the human is dead it won't matter how the door is opened.

[-] Player2@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago

To be fair, most modern frameless window cars have this issue and also roll down the window just a bit when opening and closing the door.

[-] hypelightfly@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

To be fair, those are also terribly designed cars if that requires power and doesn't work with a manual release.

[-] Player2@sopuli.xyz -2 points 1 year ago

Then why single out this specific company? I get that their public leader is being controversial and doing stupid/terrible things, but it's more helpful and honest to talk about actual problems with their vehicles, such as the data privacy issues that have been uncovered over the past ~year. This artificially decreases their standing when compared to their competitors, and those guys really don't deserve this benefit.

[-] astraeus@programming.dev 35 points 1 year ago

The stickers have been prone to theft, so they don’t like to replace them very often. They’re saving some time and money so you don’t have to.

[-] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Who steals already applied stickers? Vandalism, sure, but theft?

[-] astraeus@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago

Hertz customers who had to pay a $500 deposit on a debit card just to be able to rent the car that might not be there after paying the rental fees.

this post was submitted on 13 Sep 2023
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