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FYI, lots of users are polling to defederate sh.itjust.works
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As an outsider, I wrote already here my thougths. I'm against de-federating, since it's a nuclear option, but I would lie if I say that I'm okay with this situation. Add to this that this server hasn't de-federated exoloding-heads.com (a far right server that really hates trans people) but has no problem with blocking lemmygrad.ml (an awful Tankie server). But in the end that's your decision 🤷🏻
To be fair, lemmygrad was blocked since pretty much day 1, largely because a number of other instances did as well. Exploding heads is a more recent thing, and that was after the agora was set up and the community is still figuring out what policies the instance should have.
I'm guessing exploding heads may be defederated as well, but it may take a few days to decide.
I really need to get in the loop on what a tankie is- I have never heard that term until I came over here to lemmyland...
A tankie is someone who defends Chinese and Soviet communism and denies that any of the claimed atrocities happen. In the name of Marxism-Leninism, or Maoism, or Stalinism, they get very angry, attack you and ban you if you think differently, and will fight to the teeth to claim that the tiananmen square massacre, the uyghur genocide, holodomor, any other genocides by Mao, Stalin or whoever you want who's communist, are Western imperialistic propaganda. And that's just the tip of the iceberg. There's a whole thing there just like nazis aren't just "people who hate jews but claim the Jewish genocide never happened". Tankies usually also defend Russia in the Russo-Ukrainian War (or "conflict" as they may claim). Then again, Trump supporters usually also defend Russia. Maybe the horseshoe theory is not that crazy.
Tankies have no meaningful communism to defend. They’re not defending communist states, they’re defending a right wing authoritarian oligarchy, and an authoritarian corporatocracy. They’re not ideologues. They’re contrarian bootlickers.
If you read their rhetoric, tankies do tend to defend communism in general. They grab the theories of Marx and Lenin and whatever to do this.
Oh yes of course in their stated goals sure. But in the day to day commentary it’s all just worshiping of authoritarian states that abandoned their core economic socialist principles decades ago.
Oh I wasn’t advocating for communism. Or saying these states are failed because it’s not “real communism.” I’m saying the users on here who defend Russia and China aren’t defending communism. They’re defending one brand of authoritarianism because it happens to be anti western.
Dang, why couldn't they simply be proponents of armored cavalry instead of an entire memeplex of bad ideas.
Sounds like your typical extremist.
Honestly- if you change around terminology slightly..., it also describes the far-right wingers AND the far-left wingers too.
I generally try to keep ALL of those types of communities removed... its not healthy.
Yup. That's what the horseshoe theory says lmao. That both extremes meet. That's why tankies are so similar to nazis I guess. Or maybe they're both just the same thing and people like saying ones are "extreme left" and the others are "extreme right".
Oh wow.... Thanks... for the link and heads up.
Basically a "communist" who supports autocracy over socialism. Someone who longs for a boot on their neck, because it comforts them.
Communist radicals. It's kinda like they worship stalin the way the c/ under discussion here worships the cheeto.
Is that a Europe thing, or is that happening everywhere?
Tankies are everywhere. It's the authoritarian side of socialism/communism. There's plenty of china related tankies too