submitted 1 year ago by jnj@lemmy.ca to c/mastodon@lemmy.ml

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As far as I know, one of the headline features of microblogging networks is searching and following hashtags. On top of that, Mastodon (like Lemmy) tells users that it's not important what server/instance you join, because of federation.

With Lemmy, I find it easy to search and interact with communities across all the federated instances. Chances are, people on my local instance (even if it's relatively small) will have already interacted with popular communities for a given topic, so they will be easy to discover. However with Mastodon this concept seems totally broken -- when I search a hashtag I want to see everything, and related posts might be spread out over hundreds of small servers for which, apparently, my small server has no content populated. With Lemmy, I understand that content gets populated on my local instance when somebody else on my instance has interacted with it before. I just don't understand how this approach is feasible with for a system like Mastodon. Maybe I'm misunderstanding something, but it seems like the only way to have a reasonable chance of getting decent results for hashtag searches is to be on the biggest server?

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[-] Jerry@feddit.online 6 points 1 year ago

RE: it seems like the only way to have a reasonable chance of getting decent results for hashtag searches is to be on the biggest server

Well, yes, and no. You can relay with other Mastodon instances and they will share there traffic with you so that people on your instance will have the same content as on their instances PLUS the traffic from all the other instances that are relaying with them as well. So, your server will see a ton of stuff. No shortage of stuff coming in

There's a number of good relays. I recommend these two at a minimum:

https://relay.infosec.exchange/inbox
https://bigrelay.social/inbox

In the Administration section, there's a Relay page where you can put these in.

For the first one, @Jerry is the person to contact if it doesn't enable for you. Not sure how many instances relay with him, but it must be a large number.

For the second one, which currently has 328 instances connected together, you can get more information at https://bigrelay.social/

Hope this helps

[-] jnj@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

Thanks. To clarify, my server would have to do this? I don't run my own server, I just joined a fairly small one (I didn't know it would matter).

[-] mosthated@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago

I was also wondering this and found the following:

How to subscribe to a relay Only instance admins can subscribe to a relay. In Mastodon you can do that by going to Settings > Administration > Relays. There you can enter the url of the relay - add "/inbox" at the end of it. Then you just have to wait for your instance to be accepted by the relay owners

Source: https://joinfediverse.wiki/index.php?title=Fediverse_relays&mobileaction=toggle_view_desktop

[-] Kichae@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, relay subscription is done at the server level.

That's probably not really the issue, though. Hashtag search has been severely hampered following the Twitter migration by... People not using hashtags.

This is less a technical issue than it is one of the tool being designed by people who were trying to be an anti-Twitter, and it now bring populated by Twitter users.

The other microblogging platforms on the Fediverse have full text search. Give a Calckey or Akkoma instance a try.

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