362
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
this post was submitted on 03 Oct 2023
362 points (96.6% liked)
Not The Onion
11807 readers
299 users here now
Welcome
We're not The Onion! Not affiliated with them in any way! Not operated by them in any way! All the news here is real!
The Rules
Posts must be:
- Links to news stories from...
- ...credible sources, with...
- ...their original headlines, that...
- ...would make people who see the headline think, “That has got to be a story from The Onion, America’s Finest News Source.”
Comments must abide by the server rules for Lemmy.world and generally abstain from trollish, bigoted, or otherwise disruptive behavior that makes this community less fun for everyone.
And that’s basically it!
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
It was an old school revolver where you have to manually cock back a spring loaded hammer. If you pull it back part way and then gently guide it back to normal position, the firing pin will just rest against the primer (the part of the round that sets off the gunpowder) and nothing will happen. If you pull it all the way back, the hammer locks in place until you pull the trigger, at which point the locking mechanism is unlocked and the hammer is freed to slam the pin into the primer, firing the round. The problem comes if you pull it most of the way back and then lose your grip. In that case, the hammer slams into the round just like if you fired it. Because of the physics involved with pulling back the hammer against a heavy spring (ironically a safety against kids pulling it back), the end of the gun usually gets levered upwards during the act of cocking. So, even if you started pointed directly at the ground, you often won't be by the time the hammer locks in place. It's your job as a gun owner to make sure that nothing you don't mind shooting is in front of the gun at any point during that arc.
Add to this that it was a blank round, meaning there was just gunpowder but no bullet. Usually in a round, the gunpowder is trapped between a big slug of lead (the bullet) and the primer. In a blank, a thin layer of paper and glue is used in place of the bullet to keep the powder from falling out. A lot of people think blanks are 100% safe because there's no bullet, but at very close range that tiny bit of glue still gets shot out with enough force to penetrate skin.
Thus, the guy is still an idiot for pointing the gun in an unsafe direction while cocking it, even if it's a blank, but it's easy to see how a 62yo could lose his grip on the hammer and have the gun go off accidentally in a direction he didn't intend. And because it was a blank, he likely wasn't following full gun discipline like he should have been. This doesn't excuse his behavior (gun owners are literally taught to treat every weapon as loaded and deadly), but it might explain both his behavior and why the article chose the passive "it slipped and it shot" voice. Because basically, he was getting it ready to use as intended and it did magically "go off", and it also is quite possible that it wasn't pointed at the kid when grandpa started the task.
Yea, I wouldn't say "magically go off" but this isn't the gun misbehaving. It was a negligent discharge through improper operation. Its not a malfunction of the gun.
And to the people who don't get how old revolvers operate, they can go off without the trigger pulled in a very specific manner that isn't going to occur without someone actively getting the gun ready to fire. It's the manual operation of the firing action.
Some newer revolvers will have a mechanism that doesn't allow the hammer to swing all the way forward without the trigger being in the pulled position, but not all of them so.
And for an example of how dangerous blanks can be, the actor Jon-Erik Hexum during filming took a gun with a blank, held it to his temple and pulled the trigger. The force of the blank killed him.
Those "18xx single action revolver" replicas are dangerous as hell in the hands of an idiot. There are multiple ways to shoot oneself or someone else if the operator is being stupid.