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In this thread yeah, but in other ones they're at the top.
Which ones?
Here, for example: https://lemmy.world/comment/4223593
Or https://lemmy.world/comment/4224328
That seemed like a pretty calm and rational discussion about this horrible situation with people on both sides getting upvoted and the pro Hamas people at the bottom mostly getting down voted. Seems fine to me.
24 up, 6 down
It's not a pro-Hamas comment. People who see the world in black and white like you are fucking scary man.
Looks to me more like a healthy discussion /:
24 up, 6 down
Just keep reading the replies from V H. He gets more apologist as you go farther down.
I disagree with this person but they aren't exactly Hamas supporters. I was expecting something more clear than just comments that could only vaguely be regarded as supportive/excusing of violence.
We have different definitions of "vaguely", I guess.
This person is not excusing killing civilians, they're shifting the blame to Israel as a colonizer. This is a legitimate point to make and discuss with others.
I think you might be reading too much into it.
How can you say "this is not the fault of the killers, but of the colonizers who incited them" and not also be excusing the killers? "Look what you made me do" is classic abuser psychology.
I don't know, with a colonial reading of it, you could make that argument. Like I said, I don't agree, but it's not exactly pro-Hamas (which is what this discussion is about)
https://lemmy.world/post/6485742
Most there are like "yeah murdering and raping innocent civilians is bad but what choice do the poor Palestinians have after Israel stole their land".
Top 8 comments in that thread condemn it. The ninth one is downvoted to hell.