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I didn't used to understand foreign involvement in wars, like the whole America-Vietnam shenanigans. But I can see why after watching this Israeli Palestine Conflict since birth.

But now it's like watching two children fighting over who's sandcastles can be built in the sandbox. And what do we do if children can't learn to share? You take away everything and no one is happy.

So is that what this is going to come to? Do adults need to intervene to quell the infants?

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[-] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If suddenly you snapped your fingers and the entire region/world became irreligious, peace would exist there within a generation or so.

This is unlikely. The grievances between the various ethnic groups in the region are older than the Abrahamic religions, and older than the historical records that we have (see my other post). Individual people may have short memories, but cultures have very long memories. If you took the religion away, the groups would still mistrust and hate each other - the fighting has been going on since at least the Bronze Age.

[-] kromem@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

Literally every region on earth has cultural histories of atrocities that have been moved beyond in the sake of peace and cohabitation.

You'd need to make a case for why this particular region would be atypical enough to be the exception, and outside of continued belief in opposing religious claims, I don't see any that would merit such a status.

Do Jews or Russians and Germans currently live in peace with each other in Germany? Are the Japanese in the US secretly planning terrorist attacks on everyone else for the internment camps of WW2? Do American tourists to Vietnam need to worry about being kidnapped and beheaded by the children of people who suffered war crimes?

It's the religions, not the history.

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