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Like the kind that made you stop and think for a second about how stupid the person advocating it is. For me, it's the classic "The biggest mistake in recent history was the Allies not pushing into Russia after the fall of Berlin."

There's just a level of imperialist arrogance and blood thirst in there that makes my skin crawl. The worst thing in human history was that the US didn't immediately betray the Soviets and wipe them out until they were sure communism was done for.

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[-] knfrmity@lemmygrad.ml 33 points 1 year ago

I'm sure I've heard a lot but one that stuck with me is "gunboat diplomacy and imperialism is good actually." From the same mouth a minute later: "the only reason the KMT lost [the fucking Chinese civil war] was because the US stopped giving them weapons. Communists are fundamentally incapable of accomplishing anything on their own."

[-] SovereignState@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Rather sure a large part of the problem was that KMT leadership enjoyed engaging in prostitution and booze. Not even Nazi support could save the incompetent fools. Any KMT cadre worth their salt wound up joining the CPC.

[-] REEEEvolution@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 1 year ago

Tbf nazi support for the KMT dried up pretty quickly as the diplomatic focus switched to Japan.

[-] SovereignState@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 year ago

Fair point. Wang Jingwei became their guy and the KMT learned one of the most important political lessons too late, don't buddy up with fascists. They will betray you whenever it becomes profitable.

[-] REEEEvolution@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 1 year ago

I think this had more to do with military power. Germany kept very good relations with both China and Japan until eventually deciding to go with Japan for good. My guess would be that the decission was because the greater japanese military capacities which would be of use against the USSR.

Of course, then the Soviets and Mongols kicked the Kwantung Armies teeth in at Kalin Gol, which lead to Japan and the USSR signing a non-agression treaty. Lul.

[-] Mzuark@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 1 year ago

It's like his mind had to course correct mid-sentence because he was close to fucking up his own world view.

[-] knfrmity@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 1 year ago

It does seem like that, but I do believe he thinks it's all internally coherent.

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