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submitted 1 year ago by danhakimi@kbin.social to c/news@lemmy.world

Maps and documents recovered from the bodies of Hamas attackers reveal a coordinated plan to target children and take hostages inside an Israeli village near Gaza.

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[-] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

Por que no los dos? Nothing can justify an excessive response. Murdering children on purpose can't justify more children being murdered.

[-] DocCrankenstein@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If both parties are both acting in good faith, but Israel has been doing nothing but making excuses for its wholesale genocide. Their actions make their credibility suspect.

[-] danhakimi@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

what the fuck are you talking about? You're fucking saying Hamas was acting in good faith?

My God, this place.

[-] DocCrankenstein@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

Nice try putting words in my mouth.

[-] danhakimi@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

I was trying very hard to understand what the fuck you were talking about, which is why I asked.

if you read your own comment again, you might just notice the sheer lack of grammatical sense.

If you want people to understand your point, try again.

[-] DocCrankenstein@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If you were genuinely asking then apologies for the misunderstanding. Yet the question is one of those "you are prolife? You support killing babies?" type situations.

I never mentioned Hamas or said they also are acting in good faith, as that isnt the topic called into question.

Hamas acting in good faith has nothing to do with this. They aren't the one making claims.

Israel is the one making the claims here, and the question is if they are making the claim in good faith or trying to justify their genocidal campaign against Palestine.

It smells like propaganda and Israel has been doing nothing but fishing for an excuse to justify their "retaliation" efforts, especially with the backlash from other countries.

[-] DocCrankenstein@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

If you were genuinely asking then apologies for the misunderstanding. Yet the question is one of those "you are prolife? You support killing babies?" type situations.

I never mentioned Hamas or said they also are acting in good faith, as that isnt the topic called into question.

Hamas acting in good faith has nothing to do with this. They aren't the one making claims.

Israel is the one making the claims here, and the question is if they are making the claim in good faith or trying to justify their genocidal campaign against Palestine.

It smells like propaganda and Israel has been doing nothing but fishing for an excuse to justify their retaliation, especially with the backlash from other countries.

[-] danhakimi@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago

I never mentioned Hamas or said they also are acting in good faith, as that isnt the topic called into question.

Who are the "both parties" here? You said something about "both parties," do you remember that?

Israel is the one making the claims here, and the question is if they are making the claim in good faith or trying to justify their genocidal campaign against Palestine.

I think that'll be clear enough once the campaign is over and you barely see a blip in the population of Gaza, and they're really not too concerned with justifying anything on the world stage—the UN seems to be censuring them every damn day already.

Also: I don't think you really need an excuse to go rescue 150+ hostages when the hostage-takers don't have terms to give them back, I think it's very clear that Hamas is desperate for the invasion to happen. I'm the furthest thing from a war hawk, but I can't understand what people want to happen here, you want Netanyahu to fly to Qatar and beg this guy to give back the hostages? Offer for all 9.5 million Israelis to leave in the next week? There's no way Hamas is giving up those hostages, no way they're going to stop trying to kill every Jew on the planet. They're acting in good faith on their stated goals.

What more justification do you think Israel actually needs to invade Gaza?

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