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submitted 11 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

Charles and Kathleen Moore are about to have their day in the Supreme Court over a $15,000 tax bill they contend is unconstitutional.

The couple from Redmond, Washington, claim they had to pay the money because of their investment in an Indian company from which, as Charles Moore, 62, said in a sworn statement, they “have never received a distribution, dividend, or other payment.”

But significant parts of the story they have told to reach this point seem at odds with public records.

The Moores are the public face of a high court case backed by business and conservative political interests that could call into question other parts of the U.S. tax code and rule out a much-discussed but never-enacted tax on wealth. The case is set for arguments on Dec. 5.

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[-] Evilcoleslaw@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The purpose of it doesn't really determine whether or not the taxing authority has the authority to levy tax or not. This is all a fight to try to stop taxation of capital until/unless it is sold,at which point capital gains taxes apply. If it's unconstitutional to tax that equity in a foreign property/enterprise solely because it isn't income (distribution, dividend, other payment) then I don't see how it would be constitutional to tax a stake or equity in real estate.

Of course, I'm being slightly facetious here. Obviously we have a long history of taxing property, so I don't see how logically this tax is unconstitutional either. In the same vein, the US also taxes foreign income that has no real nexus in the US, so if that's fine I fail to see how they can't tax a citizen's foreign assets.

[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 2 points 11 months ago

In the same vein, the US also taxes foreign income that has no real nexus in the US, so if that's fine I fail to see how they can't tax a citizen's foreign assets.

On that point I'll have to grudgingly agree with what I assume is the conservative position. I see no moral or legal basis for a county to tax activities that take place outside their jurisdiction. The citizenship of the people involved shouldn't change that, but according to the US (and, as far as I know, no other county), it does. I generally see any conservative legal victory as a setback, but if this case some stops the practice of taxing US citizens living abroad, I'll consider it a silver lining.

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