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[-] Chetzemoka@startrek.website 98 points 9 months ago

History lesson time: This wasn't done on purpose. It's an artifact of decisions made by Congress during World War II to support war production.

So many young men were away at war that it created a labor shortage, even with some women entering the work force. This led to spiraling increases in wages that were threatening the viability of critical war manufacturers.

In an effort to protect this manufacturing sector, Congress capped wage increases. But those corporations were still competing for workers and now they were no longer able to offer them higher and higher wages. So instead, they started offering them "perks" like health insurance, pensions, and paid time off.

THEN:

"In 1943 the War Labor Board, which had one year earlier introduced wage and price controls, ruled that contributions to insurance and pension funds did not count as wages. In a war economy with labor shortages, employer contributions for employee health benefits became a means of maneuvering around wage controls."

Emphasis mine. And guess what? When those young men returned from war and re-entered the work force, they wanted those perks too. So which company was going to be the first to deescalate the arms race and NOT offer health insurance?

And those perks being so ubiquitous meant the government never had an incentive to provide health coverage directly to anyone of working age, so we only have Medicare for retirees.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK235989/#:~:text=In%201943%20the%20War%20Labor,of%20maneuvering%20around%20wage%20controls.

[-] orcrist@lemm.ee 24 points 9 months ago

And the the employer requirement and massive expansion of GMOs were added under Nixon. He and his contemporaries could have pushed for national health care but of course they didn’t.

[-] Tikiporch@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

Sorry, what does GMO mean in this context?

[-] JonEFive@midwest.social 10 points 9 months ago

Had to look it up myself. I think it refers to Group Member Organizations, which would be the health insurance providers.

When you really think about it, health insurance companies are a bizarre sort of consumers' union. Your insurance company negotiates prices with providers on your (and their own) behalf leveraging their buying power based on the size of the group. That was probably a good thing at one time, but now the system is so completely broken that if you try to get the same procedure done without insurance, and it'll cost you double or triple what it would cost the insurance company.

[-] TWeaK@lemm.ee 7 points 9 months ago

Insurance is a bit of a scam. It's sold as this rosy little co-op, where everyone contributes to a pot of money, then if someone suffers hardship they can withdraw from the pot to cover the cost. This falls apart when you have a 3rd party who manages the pot, determines how much people pay in and if and how much can be paid out, and also derives their income from the pot, at a rate they set themselves. This is an inherent conflict of interest, and makes insurance much more like casino gambling than what they advertise. Just like casino gambling, the house always wins, at the customers' expense.

[-] orcrist@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

I typed horribly wrong, HMOs. However, the other person’s explanation seems to work well too.

[-] Chetzemoka@startrek.website 3 points 9 months ago
[-] TWeaK@lemm.ee 16 points 9 months ago

You forgot this part, before WW2:

During the Great Depression, FDR considered making national health insurance part of his signature New Deal legislation — which would have made the US a pioneer — but those provisions were nixed to prioritize the Social Security retirement and disability programs, among others.

So old people chose something that benefits themselves only over something that benefits everyone.

[-] Chetzemoka@startrek.website 6 points 9 months ago

I mean, penicillin wasn't publicly available until 1941. So at that time, we barely had healthcare that was even worth paying for. I can understand why they deprioritized it.

I think people forget we've had truly modern healthcare for less than a century

[-] AutistoMephisto@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago

And you also can't discount the role Unions played in the American healthcare system. Because not only can you get healthcare through your employer, if you're in a union you can get coverage through your union. And there was a time when unions had their own doctors on payroll.

[-] Elliott@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

Nice recap. Thanks.

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