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Idk if I believe it, sounds like Navy is just begging for more money.
Even if the numbers are off by a fair bit it seems obvious to me that China has a big advantage when it comes to production in comparison to the USA in most sectors.
also it doesn't matter war between china and america would be nuclear
Well even if we ignore military matters. A robust shipbuilding industry generates economic benefits through job creation, technology development, and exports of naval vessels to other countries. This can boost China's economy and enhance its defense industrial base. China having a massive tradefleet seems like a big advantage for them. (Just musings of a layman)
yeah I agree China has a strong manufacturing industry which has made them a world power
MAD is weird, if the PLA didn't exist at all the US could just roll up and blockade china and say "cool you have nukes, if you use them then we retaliate and a billion of your people die" and that's that
that is true but MAD also means that the US and China can never afford to get into a direct conflict. If China were to invade Taiwan America could supply Taiwan arms but China seem to have far too much sense for that after all why go to war when you're winning the peace
China also don't seem interested in military involvement in conflicts they have no stake in
It’s always this. Any time the US military complains about “falling behind,” it’s just them holding their hands out for more money.
The pod did an episode about it, I think
Yeah this sounds like they're just saying "give us another trillion dollars to build shipyards we're definitely not going to spend it on private jets and coke."
The US wastes so much money on failed projects to enrich defense contractors. The F35, Ford Class, DDG-1000, LCS program, etc. The US military is a defense contractor welfare program.
lol do you expect the military to not try and improve its weapons of war? Also calling the F35 a failure is hilariously wrong
Yes, we aren't fighting a 1980s war anymore. The next warfare fronts will start off with shooting down satellites, cutting ocean cables, sinking ships, and cyber attacks against everything-not just military targets, but all targets. Building manned fighter planes and ships is nothing more than a waste of money.
The future (and how the US won WWII), is cheap distributed capabilities. Small unmanned, or minimally manned platforms is the future of warfare.
Ahh yes those unmanned platforms that rely entirely on satellite navigation are going to work really well when the GPS satellite system is non functional.
Electronic warfare is a double edged sword. It works great under perfect conditions, but when shit hits the fan most unmanned platforms are going to be entirely useless.
Even with an intact satellite system, modern electronic warfare jamming makes manned aircraft an absolute necessity. WW3 will be fought like WW2 a lot more than you think.
It will not be, you don't know what you're talking about. There is no sustainment capability. Missiles guarantee that. The US won WWII through RECYCLING MODEL Ts. The US shipped it's scrap to China, who is using it to build out their country.
All the surface ships on all sides will be gone in a matter of weeks, there will be no Naval Battles, missiles will take out everything, and all that will be left to do is launch the nukes and kill everyone, that's what WWIII is going to look like.
THIS IS WWIII:
https://www.nuclearwarmap.com/map01.html
You'd better hit play now and watch, because when it's happening, you won't be able to see it, and probably not even know it's happening.
You clearly have no idea how modern electronic warfare works and the cascading effects it will have on literally everything.
How do you expect a country to find every naval ship on the planet with no sat comm, gps or satellite imagery? Missiles will be extremely inaccurate when they solely rely on internal navigation systems.
Obviously nukes are a moot point since that would just be an extinction even instead of a world war. Outside of nukes the next world war will be a lot about who can handle their electronically dependencies failing.
And you had the nerve to say I don’t know what I’m talking about lol oof
Yes I’m a liberal who actually takes interest on being informed on military matters and reality.
You sound like a conservative lol
You don't know fucking shit. How about you read the National Defense Strategy, the Cyber Strategy, the NDAA, or study capability gap assessments before you mouth of like you know something. DEWs, and platforms like LUSV/MUSV, and drone warfare is the future.
lol are you replying to the wrong comment? I didn’t anything about drone warfare.
Did you, or did you not say the following?
So improving drone warfare is not improving weapons of war? What?