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submitted 9 months ago by dean@beehaw.org to c/technology@beehaw.org

While WEI is thankfully cancelled, it's not entirely cancelled... They're planning on making it available still in WebViews with the intention that websites can check if a malicious Android app is trying to do a phishing scheme.

Seems like such a niche "security" feature... what are they really trying to accomplish here? Something seems fishy to me

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[-] PonyOfWar@pawb.social 4 points 9 months ago

We gotta remain vigilant.

Agreed, but I disagree about the first part. It being only available in webviews can't really be abused and makes all the difference. Sure they could try to reintroduce all the bad stuff, even if the had cancelled it altogether, but for now this is a success.

[-] amju_wolf@pawb.social 6 points 9 months ago

You're completely wrong.

This means that they will implement it, and then it's only a tiny change to make it available everywhere if they decide to do so later.

The option alone also now also allows people to build stuff that will only work in those WebViews, rejecting to work without the integrity check, which is already a huge loss.

[-] PonyOfWar@pawb.social 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The option alone also now also allows people to build stuff that will only work in those WebViews, rejecting to work without the integrity check, which is already a huge loss.

Can you give a concrete example how this would be a huge issue? A webview is part of an app, which is already a closed system. If a developer wants to, they can already build their app using native UI with integrity checks. Now they can do the same when using webviews. It really has none of the implications it would have for browsers.

[-] RandoCalrandian@kbin.social 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

He means this builds all the backend and proof of concepts necessary to force it on every other environment, and websites will be prepared for the switch, giving the public that much less time to react when they push it to desktop again

It’s basically “OK, we can’t stop the pushback, so we’ll tell the public it will only work on android web view, but all teams keep working full steam, we’ll wait to merge into the bigger systems until all this dies down, and we won’t have lost any dev time!”

[-] PonyOfWar@pawb.social 2 points 9 months ago

That's what he wrote in his second paragraph and it's a fair point. In his third paragraph (the one I quoted) he claims that just having that functionality in webviews is already a "huge loss" though and I was curious what kind of scenario he was thinking of.

[-] RandoCalrandian@kbin.social 4 points 9 months ago

You don’t think having to go through all this to stop it again next time, but it’s even harder because it can now be implemented orders of magnitude faster than before, counts as a “huge loss”?

[-] Maajmaaj@lemmy.ca 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Had to go brush up on what webviews was. you're right, that really isn't a big deal For WEI to be implemented on it

Big edit: nope! My original statement was correct, this is going to screw over people who use things like NewPipe, reVanced or Spotube on Android! F*** Google and WEI for Android!

[-] fwygon@beehaw.org 3 points 9 months ago

No; it is a big deal.

They will bide their time and polish the feature out on Android WebViews then make another push for Desktop.

You must never agree to allow WEI exist in any form. It WILL BE MISUSED AND ABUSED!

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