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[-] tygerprints@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago

Hmm, VELLY interesting - but odd dialogue for a gay film. I'm gay and I was amazing good at math in school - I don't know why, I don't think one has anything to do with the other. And I'm not good at chess at all. Yet I'm pretty talented as a musician and painter. We all have unique traits. I think a person's sexuality is just the icing on the cake of life. And not a definition of who they are as a person. You really can't tell anything about someone just because they are gay, or straight - or sideways as the case may be.

[-] A_Very_Big_Fan@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago

I don't think one has anything to do with the other

I'm pretty sure he was saying he liked math because he plays chess, not because he's gay

[-] LemmysMum@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Which makes no sense because chess is a logic and presupposition game, not mathematical. And someone's capacity for logic doesn't determine their ability to translate that between mathematical logic and positional logic.

I get that it's just a lead in to a gay porn, but they could at least have their basic understanding of logical deduction and individual capacity correct.

[-] chumbalumber@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I would fundamentally disagree that being good at chess doesn't help you with being good at maths.

Maths is an incredibly broad field, and a lot of the skills necessary for being good at maths at a higher level (visualisation, pattern recognition, mental stamina, etc.) are developed in chess.

This is only considering causation, but in the original meme all that's required to explain the assumption being made is correlation, which there absolutely is. I ran a chess club when I was at university studying maths, and the vast majority of attendees were STEM students.

If I can put this in terms you'll be happy with: the conditional probability that someone's favourite subject is maths given they enjoy chess is much higher than the unconditional probability that someone's favourite subject is maths.

As such, the remark made in the meme is entirely sensible, and thus the validity of the plot stands. The defense rests.

[-] LemmysMum@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They said maths was their strongest subject not their favourite. Supposition of preference due to capacity is a mistake. Also you've fallen into the trap of conflating correlation and causation you even noted you had to for your point to be relevant. Capacity for mathematics doesn't presuppose either a capacity or preference for chess, but for logic.

[-] tygerprints@kbin.social -2 points 1 year ago

Actually I didn't even really like math, I was just oddly good at it. And I really don't play chess because I'm embarrassingly bad at it. My point was just that it's unusual to find anything of a scholastic nature in gay movies - unless you look at them as an education unto themselves (i.e., don't look at naked men unless you wanna get an education).

[-] QuandaleDingle@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Wha...what does it mean when someone's sideways??? O_O

[-] unreachable@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago
[-] QuandaleDingle@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago
[-] RedAggroBest@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

The fact that this can be a post about something baseball themed and we aren't using the phrase "switch hitter", which is how ive referred to myself for a decade, is a shame.

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